Hassan Al-Somal
Elite Member
It is a saber-rattling tactic to put pressure on Iran. The Israel that is struggling with 1 or 2 Yemeni missiles is in no position to threaten Iran.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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It is a saber-rattling tactic to put pressure on Iran. The Israel that is struggling with 1 or 2 Yemeni missiles is in no position to threaten Iran.
StrategicBear
Registered Member
Will Khamenei issue a Fatwa urging Muslims worldwide to launch Jihad against Israel if they attack Iranian nuke sites?
Tijani
Registered Member
No need! Iran can defend Iran! And tragically "Muslims worldwide" won't even attack the zionist occupying regime to stop the wholesale carnage inflicted on helpless women and children of Palestine let alone help defend Iran in case of war with the zionist West.
Gabriel
Registered Member
Iran is alone, no one will help except Shia militias
mulj
Trusted Member
Iran has to obtain nuclear weapons and create new reality, world has changed and no one would give a shit, it is each for itself constellation of geopolitical relationships.
This jews controlled cynical apocalypse narrative as hideous justificiation for their crimes has to end.
And in that efforts Iran has full support and understanding of common and reasonable people around the world if not governments.
This jews controlled cynical apocalypse narrative as hideous justificiation for their crimes has to end.
And in that efforts Iran has full support and understanding of common and reasonable people around the world if not governments.
GWXP
Registered Member
This is a psychological operation by the US and Israel designed to scare Iranians and force them to abandon uranium enrichment.
Israel can't do sh*t- they are only good at bombing kids in Gaza.
Israel talks about striking Iran like if Iran is some sort of Hamas or Hezbollah. But in reality Israel doesnt have the capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program.
Israeli air force has 400 fighters, but Iran has multilayered air defense network and own air force. Then there is 1600km distance between Israeli air bases and Iranian nuclear facilities.
Even Russia with more than 1000 fighters was incapable of suppressing obsolete Ukrainian air defenses and establishing air superiority over Ukraine. How Israel will suppress Iranian multilayered air defense network that has 3rd Khordad, 15th Khordad and Bavar 373 that are in mass production for the last 15-8 years?
Israeli air force has neither quantity, nor skills for conducting SEAD/DEAD operations against Iranian multilayered air defense network, while its air bases will be under constant bombardment of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.
Israeli fighters, especially the F-35, can penetrate Iranian air space and make 1-2 strikes. But first of all these few strikes will not destroy Iranian nuclear facilites some of which are 800m underground, and second, air bases of these F-35s will be destroyed by Iranian ballistic missiles before F-35s return back to Israel.
Then Iran will easily destroy Israeli nuclear facilites like Dimona and others with ballistic missiles.
Also Hezbollah is still there and it still has missiles in underground bunkers. If Israel makes a mistake, Hezbollah will destroy Israeli Port of Haifa and other civilian infrastructure with its missiles.
In short, Israel doesnt have conventional capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program. The only way they can do it is by using nuclear weapons.
Then come Americans who currently have no assets in the region for conducting a full scale war with Iran.
If Americans try to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, 40.000 Americans in the Persian Gulf region will be under attack of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.
Also Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz for maritime traffic and global economy in general and US economy in particular will be in deep depression.
Houthis will close the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb and this will threaten 15% of global maritime traffic.
And finally, if US destroys Iranian nuclear facilities, then according to CIA Iran will leave NPT and start a secret nuclear program and will test a nuclear bomb 1-2 years after the US attack.
If US wants to fully dismantle Iranian nuclear program, it has to occupy Iran and demilitarize it. But invading and occupying Iran requires 3mln troops and 3trln$ budget and US doesnt have it.
Israel can't do sh*t- they are only good at bombing kids in Gaza.
Israel talks about striking Iran like if Iran is some sort of Hamas or Hezbollah. But in reality Israel doesnt have the capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program.
Israeli air force has 400 fighters, but Iran has multilayered air defense network and own air force. Then there is 1600km distance between Israeli air bases and Iranian nuclear facilities.
Even Russia with more than 1000 fighters was incapable of suppressing obsolete Ukrainian air defenses and establishing air superiority over Ukraine. How Israel will suppress Iranian multilayered air defense network that has 3rd Khordad, 15th Khordad and Bavar 373 that are in mass production for the last 15-8 years?
Israeli air force has neither quantity, nor skills for conducting SEAD/DEAD operations against Iranian multilayered air defense network, while its air bases will be under constant bombardment of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.
Israeli fighters, especially the F-35, can penetrate Iranian air space and make 1-2 strikes. But first of all these few strikes will not destroy Iranian nuclear facilites some of which are 800m underground, and second, air bases of these F-35s will be destroyed by Iranian ballistic missiles before F-35s return back to Israel.
Then Iran will easily destroy Israeli nuclear facilites like Dimona and others with ballistic missiles.
Also Hezbollah is still there and it still has missiles in underground bunkers. If Israel makes a mistake, Hezbollah will destroy Israeli Port of Haifa and other civilian infrastructure with its missiles.
In short, Israel doesnt have conventional capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program. The only way they can do it is by using nuclear weapons.
Then come Americans who currently have no assets in the region for conducting a full scale war with Iran.
If Americans try to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, 40.000 Americans in the Persian Gulf region will be under attack of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.
Also Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz for maritime traffic and global economy in general and US economy in particular will be in deep depression.
Houthis will close the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb and this will threaten 15% of global maritime traffic.
And finally, if US destroys Iranian nuclear facilities, then according to CIA Iran will leave NPT and start a secret nuclear program and will test a nuclear bomb 1-2 years after the US attack.
If US wants to fully dismantle Iranian nuclear program, it has to occupy Iran and demilitarize it. But invading and occupying Iran requires 3mln troops and 3trln$ budget and US doesnt have it.
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ShapurII
Trusted Member
There is little to no difference between Pakistan and India for Iran. Both countries abstained from voting today. If you look at the history of our relations, you can hardly ever see one side favoring Iran more than the other.
I understand some Pakistanis want to help Iran, but this is not in any way aligned with Pakistan's foreign policies, which is heavily influenced by the US, Turkey and Arabs.
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Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
BREAKING: IAEA ADOPTS CENSURE RESOLUTION AGAINST IRAN (19-3, with 11 abstentions - 58% vote in favour)
IRAN IMMEDIATELY RESPONDS BY LAUNCHING NEW ENRICHMENT CENTRE AT "SECURE LOCATION" AND REPLACING ALL IR-1 CENTRIFUGES AT FORDOW WITH IR-6 CENTRIFUGES
IRAN IMMEDIATELY RESPONDS BY LAUNCHING NEW ENRICHMENT CENTRE AT "SECURE LOCATION" AND REPLACING ALL IR-1 CENTRIFUGES AT FORDOW WITH IR-6 CENTRIFUGES
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Launch a new enrichment center at "secure location".
This could go either way:
1. It is really an important develop if the location already exists but is confidential, or
2. It is absolutely useless and worthless if they're going to start building this "location" after now. We don't have time for that.
If it already exists and is confidential, then it's an important development.
Also, I wonder if IR-8 and IR-9 are ready for production.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
I think secure location means a new enrichment facility not disclosed to the IAEA
This will terrify them though it will be hard to hide
I am hoping the next step will be to move the 60% HEU stockpile to this undisclosed secure location for enrichment to 90%
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
after yesterday's circus it seems the Iran-US negotiations will be going ahead after all
US psychological warfare
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
surprising we were even still using IR-1s to begin with but this will mean IR-6s are deployed across Natanz and Fordow
it improves our negotiating position and reduces breakout time at Fordow
mulj
Trusted Member
how is this institution relevant at all, i would kick all their personal once it was exposed that they regulary leaked information about iranian scientists to the jews.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
additional measures still to be announced later
