Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

This lady surprised me. She appears to not like Israel foreal.

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[MS Sandhu]

Nothing is more important than Strategic Clarity for Iran right now. If there is an attack on Iran then Iran must target Israel with a singular focus. Whatever Iran has at its disposal, Iran must fire it at Israel in the first couple of days of the attack.

Target Israel with a non stop barrage in the first 48 hours of hostilities. Target the nuclear installations, the industrial sites, the energy facilities, the transport & power infrastructure.

Let there be no tomorrow.

If there’s going to be a Zionist initiated war then it must be a war that dooms Israel as well.

There seems no military buildup happening
It looks like a pressure tactic to me.

 

[MS Sandhu]

FM Asim Munir’s invite to Washington DC is related to this episode more than anything else. The Zionists are trying to bribe Pakistan with short term benefits. However, if past examples are any indication of the future, then Pakistan will keep the larger Geo Strategic picture in mind. It is a historic opportunity to deal with the Israeli question. Pakistan can & must scratch the Israeli itch once & for all.

We may never get such an opportunity again. I hope we are bold enough to take the needed step while we have the chance to do it.

I don't know how Pakistan can help Iran in any meaningful way.Though Iran supported us militarily in 1965 war and ideally we should return the favour but Iran-Israel war dynamics are completely different.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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It is a saber-rattling tactic to put pressure on Iran. The Israel that is struggling with 1 or 2 Yemeni missiles is in no position to threaten Iran.

 

[StrategicBear]

Will Khamenei issue a Fatwa urging Muslims worldwide to launch Jihad against Israel if they attack Iranian nuke sites?

 

[Tijani]

Will Khamenei issue a Fatwa urging Muslims worldwide to launch Jihad against Israel if they attack Iranian nuke sites?

No need! Iran can defend Iran! And tragically "Muslims worldwide" won't even attack the zionist occupying regime to stop the wholesale carnage inflicted on helpless women and children of Palestine let alone help defend Iran in case of war with the zionist West.

 

[Mobius]

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[Gabriel]

Will Khamenei issue a Fatwa urging Muslims worldwide to launch Jihad against Israel if they attack Iranian nuke sites?

Iran is alone, no one will help except Shia militias

 

[mulj]

Iran has to obtain nuclear weapons and create new reality, world has changed and no one would give a shit, it is each for itself constellation of geopolitical relationships.
This jews controlled cynical apocalypse narrative as hideous justificiation for their crimes has to end.
And in that efforts Iran has full support and understanding of common and reasonable people around the world if not governments.

 

[GWXP]

This is a psychological operation by the US and Israel designed to scare Iranians and force them to abandon uranium enrichment.

Israel can't do sh*t- they are only good at bombing kids in Gaza.

Israel talks about striking Iran like if Iran is some sort of Hamas or Hezbollah. But in reality Israel doesnt have the capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program.

Israeli air force has 400 fighters, but Iran has multilayered air defense network and own air force. Then there is 1600km distance between Israeli air bases and Iranian nuclear facilities.

Even Russia with more than 1000 fighters was incapable of suppressing obsolete Ukrainian air defenses and establishing air superiority over Ukraine. How Israel will suppress Iranian multilayered air defense network that has 3rd Khordad, 15th Khordad and Bavar 373 that are in mass production for the last 15-8 years?

Israeli air force has neither quantity, nor skills for conducting SEAD/DEAD operations against Iranian multilayered air defense network, while its air bases will be under constant bombardment of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.

Israeli fighters, especially the F-35, can penetrate Iranian air space and make 1-2 strikes. But first of all these few strikes will not destroy Iranian nuclear facilites some of which are 800m underground, and second, air bases of these F-35s will be destroyed by Iranian ballistic missiles before F-35s return back to Israel.

Then Iran will easily destroy Israeli nuclear facilites like Dimona and others with ballistic missiles.

Also Hezbollah is still there and it still has missiles in underground bunkers. If Israel makes a mistake, Hezbollah will destroy Israeli Port of Haifa and other civilian infrastructure with its missiles.

In short, Israel doesnt have conventional capability to destroy Iranian nuclear program. The only way they can do it is by using nuclear weapons.

Then come Americans who currently have no assets in the region for conducting a full scale war with Iran.

If Americans try to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, 40.000 Americans in the Persian Gulf region will be under attack of Iranian ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.

Also Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz for maritime traffic and global economy in general and US economy in particular will be in deep depression.

Houthis will close the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb and this will threaten 15% of global maritime traffic.

And finally, if US destroys Iranian nuclear facilities, then according to CIA Iran will leave NPT and start a secret nuclear program and will test a nuclear bomb 1-2 years after the US attack.

If US wants to fully dismantle Iranian nuclear program, it has to occupy Iran and demilitarize it. But invading and occupying Iran requires 3mln troops and 3trln$ budget and US doesnt have it.

 

[ShapurII]

Whilst Iranians continue to treat India as strategic partner. Let the indians help them, I am sure they will lend them some Tejas, after all nobody else will buy them.

There is little to no difference between Pakistan and India for Iran. Both countries abstained from voting today. If you look at the history of our relations, you can hardly ever see one side favoring Iran more than the other.

I understand some Pakistanis want to help Iran, but this is not in any way aligned with Pakistan's foreign policies, which is heavily influenced by the US, Turkey and Arabs.

 

[Persian Gulf]

BREAKING: IAEA ADOPTS CENSURE RESOLUTION AGAINST IRAN (19-3, with 11 abstentions - 58% vote in favour)

IRAN IMMEDIATELY RESPONDS BY LAUNCHING NEW ENRICHMENT CENTRE AT "SECURE LOCATION" AND REPLACING ALL IR-1 CENTRIFUGES AT FORDOW WITH IR-6 CENTRIFUGES

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[ShapurII]

BREAKING: IAEA ADOPTS CENSURE RESOLUTION AGAINST IRAN, IRAN IMMEDIATELY RESPONDS BY LAUNCHING NEW ENRICHMENT CENTRE AT "SECURE LOCATION" AND REPLACING ALL IR-1 CENTRIFUGES AT FORDOW WITH IR-6 CENTRIFUGES

Launch a new enrichment center at "secure location".
This could go either way:
1. It is really an important develop if the location already exists but is confidential, or
2. It is absolutely useless and worthless if they're going to start building this "location" after now. We don't have time for that.

If it already exists and is confidential, then it's an important development.
Also, I wonder if IR-8 and IR-9 are ready for production.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Launch a new enrichment center at "secure location".
This could go either way: 1. It is really an important develop if the location already exists but is confidential, 2. It is absolutely useless and worthless if they're going to start building this "location" after now.

If it already exists and is confidential, then it's an important development.
Also, I wonder if IR-8 and IR-9 are ready for production.

I think secure location means a new enrichment facility not disclosed to the IAEA

This will terrify them though it will be hard to hide

I am hoping the next step will be to move the 60% HEU stockpile to this undisclosed secure location for enrichment to 90%

 

[Persian Gulf]

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after yesterday's circus it seems the Iran-US negotiations will be going ahead after all

US psychological warfare