Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

kastor ville said:
Yes, I've been saying this too.....with that said, these people need to go. Full stop.
I'm a defender of Iran....but I cannot let this pass. 5000+ dead to me means you're done....you need to go!
I've tried to help and form strategies to defend Iran, I've heard a lot of chatter about closing the Strait in the last few weeks, that's no accident, I laid out a pretty good plan for it, after the 12 day war. I've said it is the only effective weapon against superpowers.
I also said that they must send message to United States before they do it.
I have proof now that has happened.

I also said that we need to close the border right after the 12-day war, and to use electronic monitoring and drones to surveille. Two weeks later there were articles about how they're going to close the border and have electronic monitoring and drones to assist. Again, it's no accident....they're reading our ideas, which goes to show you how incompetent they are that they need us to tell them what their job should be.
They've stayed longer than their welcome period.....it's time for a new government.
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The protestors were useful idiots and some corrupt bazaris and thieves and oligarchs who are addicted to subsidized dollars wanted turmoil to put the system under pressure.

Why I blame Khamenei and IRGC is that they never carried out mass executions against oligarchs and thieves. That's why they are paying and will pay in blood for their mistakes (at the cost of our nation and country). I guess that's part of our history then that we should accept. It's a cultural thing maybe, nepotism and corruption.

But the thousands of deaths are mostly fake and from western media. These demonstrations were both hijacked and started by Mossad and western intelligence. I have only remorse for the security forces who got martyred for national security and other bystanders killed by rioters, but the rest should have known better, when the country is in danger of an all out war, you dont throw oil on fire.
 
hussain0216 said:
I disagree

Your nation is under existential threat

You have foreign agents using the cover of these idiot protesters to attack your country, and the same people in the midst of war attacked Iranian A.D and Military targets

The protesters have achieved nothing but invite an attack on Iran


Their sometimes has to be consequences for your stupidity, and Iran did not have the time or ability to play game with agitators and idiot protesters at a time of national crisis
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What is the end game....to come out of these protests and the attacks or coming attacks and then what?
Did you know, the idea behind the Carrier Strike Group sailing towards Iran is not to hit Iran but to stop the oil sales?
I bet you didn't.
What happens when the little money coming in gets choked off? The country will fall into disarray...the people will get more desperate. The current govt has no plan for any of it. It's just a matter of time before it falls organically, anyway.
They need to go peacefully, they need to transition. I prefer we don't have a violent fall....they can arrange it so the people will calm down, they can announce we will have a referendum on a new constitution, and let the people vote for new govt and structure. .
 
The question is, how many of the 5,000 alleged dead were killed by armed rebels? The media is distorting everything, you don't have to believe everything. It's obvious that there are dead, but blaming them all on government forces is a blatant lie.
 
Comandante said:
The question is, how many of the 5,000 alleged dead were killed by armed rebels? The media is distorting everything, you don't have to believe everything. It's obvious that there are dead, but blaming them all on government forces is a blatant lie.
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Your numbers are false IRI killed 6 millions Iranians
 
Persian Gulf said:
did Greenlanders shout death to USA? we should stop pretending the US is a rational, good faith actor, especially under Trump

none of this is to excuse IRI's foreign policy or say they are competent. that's clearly not true. taking US diplomats hostage was a terrible idea and has consequences.
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The Great Orange Ape has been in office for but one year. Iran's "Death to America" policy has been in place for nearly half a century across all administrations since the Islamic Revolution.

I respect the determination of the Iranian people to chart their own nation's course as they see fit. However, recent events have clearly showed that even such a proud people are not immune to sustained economic pressures.

Hence, it may be time to reconsider any policies that have an economic cost that is becoming increasingly unbearable.

And I say this as a friend, not an enemy.
 
VCheng said:
The Great Orange Ape has been in office for but one year. Iran's "Death to America" policy has been in place for nearly half a century across all administrations since the Islamic Revolution.

I respect the determination of the Iranian people to chart their own nation's course as they see fit. However, recent events have clearly showed that even such a proud people are not immune to sustained economic pressures.

Hence, it may be time to reconsider any policies that have an economic cost that is becoming increasingly unbearable.

And I say this as a friend, not an enemy.
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that is all correct

the problem is the US is after surrender terms, not a fair deal
 
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