Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

From Zerohedge posted today
Interesting take is to let US oil companies inside Iran....this is a great idea, this is thinking out of the box. This could prevent a war....and snatch victory away from the zios.
I'm sure they will try and sabotage it

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During the Reagan years, the oil companies were the ones asking him to stop going after the MPLA in Angola.

 

[Claudius]

Iran will be bombed,a few new republics will be born, such is the life in the ME, where diversity is key....

Hopefully, the new WhateverterStan which will be cobbled from Iran will lover oil/ gas prices

 

[Mehdipersian]

No. If Iran really would have ability to demonstrate what you are suggesting then that means total deterrence. US would not have dared to bring so called "Armada" and threaten Iran or drop bombs on its nuclear facilities last year.

Yes Iran has ability to fire capable ballistic missiles at enemy locations but it cannot "destroy" "all of Jewish cities" Or "all of US bases" etc.

Iran has been building missiles and drones like crazy for 30 years.

It has also built dozens, if not hundreds, of underground bases to store and launch these throughout Iran.

From the very beginning, Iran knew it would have a war with Israel and the United States, and it prepared for this war.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We are in this situation because our president likes fucking kids. He fucks kids. Israel has tapes of him doing it. And he doesn’t want those tapes out because it will be irrefutable that he fucks kids.

So thousands will die because our president fucks kids.

The only problem is that Iran wants to become pro-US, but the US never gives them a chance to do so.

The only country wants Iran to die is Israel, and the US is ready to follow that order.

 

[nibba]

Then who Iran gonna trust?

India? You super Bharat just keeps kneeling to Trump like a norm.

Russia? A lot of Russians just share the same white brotherhood with MAGA, and are they going to fight each other just for the sake of other non-white colored people?

China is the only country to fight the US in a full scale trade war to tech war, and until now, it is still a stalemate.

All countries in the world have kneeled to Trump except China.

LOL ok..

what im saying is this back and forth about china's "choice" not to get involved is a waste of time. china doesnt really have a choice to make.

PLAN couldn't get to the persian gulf even if they wanted to

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

LOL ok..

what im saying is this back and forth about china's "choice" not to get involved is a waste of time. china doesnt really have a choice to make.

PLAN couldn't get to the persian gulf even if they wanted to

China's DF-27 and 6th gen aircrafts are the proof that China can fully cover the Persian Gulf.

But we are more timid than the US or Russia who are naturally more aggressive and fight a war without thinking about the consequence, and often overestimating their own capability.

 

[Avicenna]

China's DF-27 and 6th gen aircrafts are the proof that China can fully cover the Persian Gulf.

But we are more timid than the US or Russia who are naturally more aggressive and fight a war without thinking about the consequence, and often overestimating their own capability.

I'm thinking China (PLAN)is about a decade away from this capability.

I wonder why Iran wouldn't allow China to have a base eg. Chabahar in exchange for more material support.

Iran bet on the wrong horse (India).

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I'm thinking China (PLAN)is about a decade away from this capability.

I wonder why Iran wouldn't allow China to have a base eg. Chabahar in exchange for more material support.

China only has fewer aircraft carriers compared to the US, but its destroyer/cruiser number and nuclear submarine numbers are getting closer and set to surpass the US within a decade.

China’s Nuclear Submarine Fleet Overtakes Russia’s as Production Surge Expands Numbers

The latest estimates for the size of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy’s nuclear powered submarine fleet indicate that it has overtaken that of the Russian Navy in size, making it the second…

militarywatchmagazine.com

In the meantime, the US lacks the hypersonic capability of China.

China sure can protect Iran from the US invasion, but the problem is that Iran doesn't like China nor they fully trust China, same for China.

 

[Mehdipersian]

China sure can protect Iran from the US invasion, but the problem is that Iran doesn't like China nor they fully trust China, same for China.

The discussion is not about trust.

China is afraid to act against the United States and NATO. This is something the whole world has seen in the past few years.

This is why China cannot be a world superpower like the Soviet Union.

 

[wangdefa]

Iran has already faced the US/Israel/NATO in three recent wars: the 2024 bombings, the 12-day war of 2025, and the color revolution of 2026. In all three, Iran fared well.

The three things you mentioned, he cannot change the reality. Starting the retreat from Syria is a huge strategic mistake. Russia still maintains two military bases through means, while Iran has lost its maximum strategic depth position and its access to Israel has been blocked. The enemy only needs to fly a plane to bomb Iran. I am not optimistic about Iran's air defense system.

 

[kastor ville]

Iran will be bombed,a few new republics will be born, such is the life in the ME, where diversity is key....

Hopefully, the new WhateverterStan which will be cobbled from Iran will lover oil/ gas prices

Ok zio....good luck with that. Meanwhile try not to burn down the Amazon.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The discussion is not about trust.

China is afraid to act against the United States and NATO. This is something the whole world has seen in the past few years.

This is why China cannot be a world superpower like the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union is dead over 3 decades, and Russia can't even win the Ukrainian war without China.

Only China can provide the full supply chain for Russia to assemble million of drones and unlimited supply of legacy chips.

You guys can keep whining how China is not directly fighting the US on your behalf, but even the MAGA propagandists have confirmed that China is mobilizing a lot of cargo planes to assist Iran for the incoming invasion.




Yep, just keep bashing China, meanwhile China has to bypass all sanctions to come for rescue, just like Huawei has done last time.

 

[Immortals]

You should know that the Covid-19 was a bio attack on both China and Iran, yet you blame solely on us.

COVID-19 escaped a well known Wuhan lab that was studying the coronavirus family.

So tell me again how US used CV-19 on iran and china?

Sounds like propaganda to cover up Chinese disregard at following properly protocols.

 

[StrategicBear]

China's DF-27 and 6th gen aircrafts are the proof that China can fully cover the Persian Gulf.

But we are more timid than the US or Russia who are naturally more aggressive and fight a war without thinking about the consequence, and often overestimating their own capability.

Because their policy is : Fight first and think about the consequences later.

Fortune favors the bold, and sometimes it is China's own cowardice in war that will cost China a lot.

 

[Avicenna]

China only has fewer aircraft carriers compared to the US, but its destroyer/cruiser number and nuclear submarine numbers are getting closer and set to surpass the US within a decade.

China’s Nuclear Submarine Fleet Overtakes Russia’s as Production Surge Expands Numbers

The latest estimates for the size of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy’s nuclear powered submarine fleet indicate that it has overtaken that of the Russian Navy in size, making it the second…

militarywatchmagazine.com

In the meantime, the US lacks the hypersonic capability of China.

China sure can protect Iran from the US invasion, but the problem is that Iran doesn't like China nor they fully trust China, same for China.

Not to de-rail the thread. But PLAN really can't do much to USN in West Asia at this time.
Chinese nuclear submarines are far inferior to US subs. New Type 93B just coming online and it will take time to achieve full operational capbility. Second batch of Type 55 not commissioned yet. Type 52D are rolling out but maybe number around 30-35. The real capability boost will come when Type 004 is commisioned and if PLAN is able to churn out the 6 carriers that have been projected by 2035. Not to mention a more mature carrier aviation force. So until then China is limited in the support it can provide even it it wanted too. (Which it doesn't).

Iran is essentially on its own.