Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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how does Bush sleeps peacefully at night, it is a question, it would haunt me for a long time.

think about, if Bush gets away with this and has no repercussions, what ordinary criminal would think!

 

[Shags101]

Imagine Saddam was overthrown.

Then imagine US took his general that got absolutely obliterated in Persian Gulf War 1 and Persian Gulf 2 and said “you are in charge now, follow our orders”.

And then that said General said no I don’t want to be called General, call me King like the Babylonian Kings.

And then you had this fake King’s family with no ties to any Babylonian ancestor rule for half a century.

That’s basically the Phalavi family in a nutshell. Except in case of Iran we had a democratic PM led government that was overthrown. Their royale reign literally lasted for 53 years. A joke in scheme of our histories time.

Now some people want to switch a theological dictatorship for some LA socialite dictatorship, rather than a true democratic government. I swear Iranians are retarded when it comes to politics. Absolutely retarded.

Yeah pretty much that’s right in a nutshell to be fair though that’s Arabs as well they root for one guy to be overthrown just to get another version in its place Egypt Syria(I’m just hedging my bets he’s going to try to stay in power) Libya Sudan and so on

 

[Immortals]

That's false, as a new constitution will be written from scratch.

Whose gonna write that constitution in your imaginary fantasyland?

Reza Pahlavi? Donald Trump? Jared Kushner?

Do you even think before you write? It’s called legal precedent. Legal precedent in Iran would look at how constitution was when Reza Shah was in power and before him. Sure you could write a constitution where a donkey has the right to a throne. Anything is possible. But reality will be a lot different because you need the support of the factions running the country today.

Why would anyone in Iran support a constitution that breaks royale tradition and has heir to the throne of someone who isn’t even 100% Iranian? You are diluting the significance of the monarchy for vanity reasons. This will create a nation on shaky ground.

Only a matter of time before people say why can’t we elect our own PM or president instead of being ruled by this Jewish boy king. And then you have another revolution on your hands within 40 years.

It’s all hypothetical, but just the thought experiment leads to so many problems.

 

[mangekyo]

Imagine Saddam was overthrown.

Then imagine US took his general that got absolutely obliterated in Persian Gulf War 1 and Persian Gulf 2 and said “you are in charge now, follow our orders”.

And then that said General said no I don’t want to be called General, call me King like the Babylonian Kings.

And then you had this fake King’s family with no ties to any Babylonian ancestor rule for half a century.

That’s basically the Phalavi family in a nutshell. Except in case of Iran we had a democratic PM led government that was overthrown. Their royale reign literally lasted for 53 years. A joke in scheme of our histories time.

Now some people want to switch a theological dictatorship for some LA socialite dictatorship, rather than a true democratic government. I swear Iranians are retarded when it comes to politics. Absolutely retarded.

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

 

[ToddE]

Shahis and Mullah-bugs belong to the same bin. System is going towards military run petro state on its own.

 

[ShapurII]

Whose gonna write that constitution in your imaginary fantasyland?

Reza Pahlavi? Donald Trump? Jared Kushner?

Do you even think before you write? It’s called legal precedent. Legal precedent in Iran would look at how constitution was when Reza Shah was in power and before him. Sure you could write a constitution where a donkey has the right to a throne. Anything is possible. But reality will be a lot different because you need the support of the factions running the country today.

Why would anyone in Iran support a constitution that breaks royale tradition and has heir to the throne of someone who isn’t even 100% Iranian? You are diluting the significance of the monarchy for vanity reasons. This will create a nation on shaky ground.

Only a matter of time before people say why can’t we elect our own PM or president instead of being ruled by this Jewish boy king. And then you have another revolution on your hands within 40 years.

It’s all hypothetical, but just the thought experiment leads to so many problems.

Another useless post about something hypothetical. A total waste of time. It's sort of like "اگه عمه دول داشت می‌شد عمو".

This reminds me of your previous claims such as "Qatar is Iran's bestest strategic friend and anybody who disagrees with that is a fool" and "The US will never attack Iran after 2006". So much ignorance, written with such arrogance. lol

Your questions are of too little value to be discussed further. It doesn't matter who will write the next constitution because 1. It hasn't been written yet and we don't know if monarchy will be restored, 2. when it's written, the author doesn't really matter in the final outcome. It could be Reza Pahlavi, Donald Trump, Jared Koshner or even Bin Salman. I don't see any point worth being discussed in your post. When you have come up with a serious question that is not based on your personal opinion or hypothetical scenarios, go ahead.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[ShapurII]

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

There are only three viable replacements for the Islamic Republic when it falls:
1. A reformist/oligarchy group inside Iran led by people like Hassan Rohani, or Mojtaba Khamenei.
2. Reza Pahlavi
3. MEK

Anybody who thinks you can magically come up with some democratic replacement for the IR is stupid and beyond delusional. There is no other option other than those 3 realistically. MEK is hated by literally everybody in Iran and in diaspora. So, it is either Reza Pahlavi or the reformists/oligarchs in the Islamic Republic. There is no other real alternative.

It is absolutely clear to anybody with eyes that the Iranians are tired of the reformists and oligarchs inside Iran. In fact, January protests must have made that sufficiently clear. The popularity of reformists and oligarchs in Iran is even lower than the IRGC at the moment.

So, if the US decides to go for regime change and accepts all the risks and troubles that will come with it, do you think they will hand over the new system to people like Shamkhani's son or Hassan Rouhani when they can start over and create a new Iran under Zionist control? That's hilarious.

 

[Liquidator]

That's literally it.

America will wage a war because they don't want videos of their politicians F U C K I N G children released.

Combined with a little extreme religious ideology...you know, that second coming and greater Israel bullshit. I wonder how their man-god will enter the earthly realm this time.....

Just let that sink in.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Immortals]

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

1921 coup was heavily influenced by UK and officers such as Edmund Ironside playing a major role in encouraging and assisting the coup and assembling leadership. Reza Shah didn’t magically go from a officer to commander without powerful foreign backers.

1941 succession event, Reza was forced to abdicate to his son due to Britain and pressure from WW2 invasion.

Then infamous 1953 event that was widely known to be a MI5/CIA coup.

So what here makes you think that Phalavi family was nothing more than a foreign asset and stooge?

Again this was well before the period of internet, social media, twitter. So overthrowing governments was much easier and fact checking fake news was much harder as allies had perfected writing fake news since Spanish War of 1914, as famous author George Orwell wrote in his essay.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

When the George W. Bush administration invaded Iraq in March 2003, that war had 72% support among Americans, according to Gallup.

If Donald Trump now wants to start a U.S. war with Iran, the president would not remotely enjoy that level of support. He doesn’t even have half of it. Scratch that, not even a quarter of Americans want him to bomb Iran today.

A SSRS/University of Maryland poll asked participants earlier this month: “Do you favor or oppose the United States initiating an attack on Iran under the current circumstances?” Only 21% favored, 49% opposed, and 30% answered “I don’t know.”

 

[ShapurII]

When the George W. Bush administration invaded Iraq in March 2003, that war had 72% support among Americans, according to Gallup.

If Donald Trump now wants to start a U.S. war with Iran, the president would not remotely enjoy that level of support. He doesn’t even have half of it. Scratch that, not even a quarter of Americans want him to bomb Iran today.

A SSRS/University of Maryland poll asked participants earlier this month: “Do you favor or oppose the United States initiating an attack on Iran under the current circumstances?” Only 21% favored, 49% opposed, and 30% answered “I don’t know.”

Trump is not George Bush. His entire presidency has been nothing but division and discord among Americans with him mocking and calling people who disagree with him names on national TV or on X. He can't care less about what Americans think.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Trump is not George Bush. His entire presidency has been nothing but division and discord among Americans with him mocking and calling people who disagree with him names on national TV or on X.

And that's a good thing. We need more of this. US citizens are victims of the zionist chokehold.

 

[Shags101]

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

Kind of the guy took over Iran said call me the shah and I’m royalty