Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

Again you speak on matters with little accuracy.

That’s not how “royale” lines work. You don’t get to switch (patriarchy vs matriarchy monarchy) whenever you want. This isn’t Game of Thrones.

If Fake King doesn’t have a heir then the successor claim to throne goes to the heirs of Alireza Phalavi (the other son of Reza shah) of which there are 4 sons currently alive and one also has an heir.

Lastly Iranian constitution required that both the mother and father of an heir had to be of Iranian descent.

So unless like Saudi “royale” family you want to make a joke of a custom and insert MBS at the head of the family just because then Iran would have to do a similar move and completely show what a farce the royale line is.

All this is a joke either way. A family who didn’t have even 100 years of reign. Whose grandfather was a officer in the worst military Iran has ever known (Qajar) and who bowed to his western masters and abdicated when they told him to step aside.

This current big nose Shah has daughters who cannot even speak Farsi properly let alone read or write Farsi. They wouldn’t survive 2 seconds inside that mafia society.

I’m telling you it is funny reading up on the “shahs”it really just some guy who said you can all call me king of Iran we would call that crazy talk today

 

[Immortals]

Your post is baseless. What Iranian constitution?

The Iranian constitution of 1906 and how the succession worked for thousands of years thru our history.

But of course to a Phalavi supporter (I know you will deny it, but it’s quite obvious) like yourself tradition means very little. You just want your big bird on the throne.

How do you know what the future constitution of an alleged constitutional monarchy in Iran would look like to begin with? It could very well be written to be like the British royal tradition of male-preferred primogeniture. I don't see why that is impossible.

Because that is not how it worked in Iran for thousands of years. Succession is thru the sons that’s why it’s called HEIRS. That’s why for thousands of years kings tried to have SONS. Not just in Iran but across the ancient world.

Why would Iran want to copy the other cuck pedophile British Royale family? Have some shame man.

Reza Shah had 2 sons. Alireza Phalavi had 3 sons. They have more claim to this imaginary throne than some half Jewish half Iranian son of some LA socialite mother.

 

[ShapurII]

The Iranian constitution of 1906 and how the succession worked for thousands of years thru our history.

But of course to a Phalavi supporter (I know you will deny it, but it’s quite obvious) like yourself tradition means very little. You just want your big bird on the throne.

What I support or not support is completely irrelevant to the hypotheses or implications of your argument. Your argument claims that the future constitution of Iran, if monarchy is reestablished, has to follow the 1905 constitution. That's false, as a new constitution will be written from scratch. The rest of your post is blah blah blah. Iran could easily adopt a male-preferred primogeniture like Britain. There's absolutely no reason for that to be impossible in a hypothetical constitutional monarchy in future.

 

[Immortals]

I’m telling you it is funny reading up on the “shahs”it really just some guy who said you can all call me king of Iran we would call that crazy talk today

Imagine Saddam was overthrown.

Then imagine US took his general that got absolutely obliterated in Persian Gulf War 1 and Persian Gulf 2 and said “you are in charge now, follow our orders”.

And then that said General said no I don’t want to be called General, call me King like the Babylonian Kings.

And then you had this fake King’s family with no ties to any Babylonian ancestor rule for half a century.

That’s basically the Phalavi family in a nutshell. Except in case of Iran we had a democratic PM led government that was overthrown. Their royale reign literally lasted for 53 years. A joke in scheme of our histories time.

Now some people want to switch a theological dictatorship for some LA socialite dictatorship, rather than a true democratic government. I swear Iranians are retarded when it comes to politics. Absolutely retarded.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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how does Bush sleeps peacefully at night, it is a question, it would haunt me for a long time.

think about, if Bush gets away with this and has no repercussions, what ordinary criminal would think!

 

[Shags101]

Imagine Saddam was overthrown.

Then imagine US took his general that got absolutely obliterated in Persian Gulf War 1 and Persian Gulf 2 and said “you are in charge now, follow our orders”.

And then that said General said no I don’t want to be called General, call me King like the Babylonian Kings.

And then you had this fake King’s family with no ties to any Babylonian ancestor rule for half a century.

That’s basically the Phalavi family in a nutshell. Except in case of Iran we had a democratic PM led government that was overthrown. Their royale reign literally lasted for 53 years. A joke in scheme of our histories time.

Now some people want to switch a theological dictatorship for some LA socialite dictatorship, rather than a true democratic government. I swear Iranians are retarded when it comes to politics. Absolutely retarded.

Yeah pretty much that’s right in a nutshell to be fair though that’s Arabs as well they root for one guy to be overthrown just to get another version in its place Egypt Syria(I’m just hedging my bets he’s going to try to stay in power) Libya Sudan and so on

 

[Immortals]

That's false, as a new constitution will be written from scratch.

Whose gonna write that constitution in your imaginary fantasyland?

Reza Pahlavi? Donald Trump? Jared Kushner?

Do you even think before you write? It’s called legal precedent. Legal precedent in Iran would look at how constitution was when Reza Shah was in power and before him. Sure you could write a constitution where a donkey has the right to a throne. Anything is possible. But reality will be a lot different because you need the support of the factions running the country today.

Why would anyone in Iran support a constitution that breaks royale tradition and has heir to the throne of someone who isn’t even 100% Iranian? You are diluting the significance of the monarchy for vanity reasons. This will create a nation on shaky ground.

Only a matter of time before people say why can’t we elect our own PM or president instead of being ruled by this Jewish boy king. And then you have another revolution on your hands within 40 years.

It’s all hypothetical, but just the thought experiment leads to so many problems.

 

[mangekyo]

Imagine Saddam was overthrown.

Then imagine US took his general that got absolutely obliterated in Persian Gulf War 1 and Persian Gulf 2 and said “you are in charge now, follow our orders”.

And then that said General said no I don’t want to be called General, call me King like the Babylonian Kings.

And then you had this fake King’s family with no ties to any Babylonian ancestor rule for half a century.

That’s basically the Phalavi family in a nutshell. Except in case of Iran we had a democratic PM led government that was overthrown. Their royale reign literally lasted for 53 years. A joke in scheme of our histories time.

Now some people want to switch a theological dictatorship for some LA socialite dictatorship, rather than a true democratic government. I swear Iranians are retarded when it comes to politics. Absolutely retarded.

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

 

[ToddE]

Shahis and Mullah-bugs belong to the same bin. System is going towards military run petro state on its own.

 

[ShapurII]

Whose gonna write that constitution in your imaginary fantasyland?

Reza Pahlavi? Donald Trump? Jared Kushner?

Do you even think before you write? It’s called legal precedent. Legal precedent in Iran would look at how constitution was when Reza Shah was in power and before him. Sure you could write a constitution where a donkey has the right to a throne. Anything is possible. But reality will be a lot different because you need the support of the factions running the country today.

Why would anyone in Iran support a constitution that breaks royale tradition and has heir to the throne of someone who isn’t even 100% Iranian? You are diluting the significance of the monarchy for vanity reasons. This will create a nation on shaky ground.

Only a matter of time before people say why can’t we elect our own PM or president instead of being ruled by this Jewish boy king. And then you have another revolution on your hands within 40 years.

It’s all hypothetical, but just the thought experiment leads to so many problems.

Another useless post about something hypothetical. A total waste of time. It's sort of like "اگه عمه دول داشت می‌شد عمو".

This reminds me of your previous claims such as "Qatar is Iran's bestest strategic friend and anybody who disagrees with that is a fool" and "The US will never attack Iran after 2006". So much ignorance, written with such arrogance. lol

Your questions are of too little value to be discussed further. It doesn't matter who will write the next constitution because 1. It hasn't been written yet and we don't know if monarchy will be restored, 2. when it's written, the author doesn't really matter in the final outcome. It could be Reza Pahlavi, Donald Trump, Jared Koshner or even Bin Salman. I don't see any point worth being discussed in your post. When you have come up with a serious question that is not based on your personal opinion or hypothetical scenarios, go ahead.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[ShapurII]

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

There are only three viable replacements for the Islamic Republic when it falls:
1. A reformist/oligarchy group inside Iran led by people like Hassan Rohani, or Mojtaba Khamenei.
2. Reza Pahlavi
3. MEK

Anybody who thinks you can magically come up with some democratic replacement for the IR is stupid and beyond delusional. There is no other option other than those 3 realistically. MEK is hated by literally everybody in Iran and in diaspora. So, it is either Reza Pahlavi or the reformists/oligarchs in the Islamic Republic. There is no other real alternative.

It is absolutely clear to anybody with eyes that the Iranians are tired of the reformists and oligarchs inside Iran. In fact, January protests must have made that sufficiently clear. The popularity of reformists and oligarchs in Iran is even lower than the IRGC at the moment.

So, if the US decides to go for regime change and accepts all the risks and troubles that will come with it, do you think they will hand over the new system to people like Shamkhani's son or Hassan Rouhani when they can start over and create a new Iran under Zionist control? That's hilarious.

 

[Liquidator]

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That's literally it.

America will wage a war because they don't want videos of their politicians F U C K I N G children released.

Combined with a little extreme religious ideology...you know, that second coming and greater Israel bullshit. I wonder how their man-god will enter the earthly realm this time.....

Just let that sink in.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Immortals]

I’m no monarchist, but that’s not how it happened at all.

1921 coup was heavily influenced by UK and officers such as Edmund Ironside playing a major role in encouraging and assisting the coup and assembling leadership. Reza Shah didn’t magically go from a officer to commander without powerful foreign backers.

1941 succession event, Reza was forced to abdicate to his son due to Britain and pressure from WW2 invasion.

Then infamous 1953 event that was widely known to be a MI5/CIA coup.

So what here makes you think that Phalavi family was nothing more than a foreign asset and stooge?

Again this was well before the period of internet, social media, twitter. So overthrowing governments was much easier and fact checking fake news was much harder as allies had perfected writing fake news since Spanish War of 1914, as famous author George Orwell wrote in his essay.