Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

They had 25 years 😂
Now they would never be able to build anything as Israel will bomb them constantly
Many commentators are amazed at how slow the Iranians have been. Putin described them as very difficult people to help. They're literally buying Chinese carrier killer missiles the day before the war.

And where are the J-10's they allegedly bought? Even after the 12 day war, no effective air defence.
 
Which Turkish boys?

Turkey is more independent in its defense than any muslim country on the planet. It builds its own weapons, and they are world class weapons. Weapons that its able to export to other muslim countries.

No one is relying on NATO for Defense or expecting them to be there(outside of the Russian context), if anything Turkey is preparing for a scenario with NATO "allies" attack it, whether in Cyprus or in Thrace or fund separatists against Turkey. Or scenarios where the Zionist entity attacks Turkey or the US itself in a hypothetical. Who is saying Turkey is talking about NATO and Article 5 as a defense?

That's great and all.

But prepare for the day the same people doing this to Iran may be doing this to you.

Some of these folks are pretty much telling you you guys are next.
 
They've decapitated the leadership, they've destroyed most of our AD in western and central iran, theyre turning Tehran into Gaza, Iran's responses have dwindled to nothing and there are talks of negotiations. Iran lost!

This cannot be the end goal. Surely Iran has lost material and leadership. The Americans and especially the Zionists want a complete regime change and nothing less. Iran losing is not the end goal. Iranian leaders can always make a comeback.

The Zionists and Americans planned this attack to initiate regime change. Anything less means objectives not met for Israel and the US.
 
They work differently and seek martyrdom and trying to be ordinary people, i know it is border line lunacy when you deal with satanic followers but they choose to trust God in everything, we need at least to respect it if not understanding it.

If you "seek" martyrdom then it can't be true martyrdom? Right, it is suicide which is a prohibited act.
@mulj actually is hitting the nail on the head here, we keep retrofitting around into conventional ways of military thinking but you have to at least accept that they are not fluffy in their beliefs and approach


It is simultaneously well thought out but then also simultaneously open to martyrdom.

I can't explain it easily.
 


Trump has established by intent or bumbling that there is only on power in the world today. He has been able to say/unsay, do/undo, take/untake, give/ungive whatever he wants/guesses/imagines. Asia Europe AFrica ...doesn't matter. He has shown up every politician and 'leader' as feckless useless & inept. Without exception the ractions have been just two: silence combined with small concessions or outright open surrender.

Only exception is Israel. They have accomplished their goal in Gaza and about to re Iran.
 
One thing that i dont understand is that did iran not have any sleeper cells in West? We havent seen any assassinations of adversaries so far. Why is that?
 


They are very weak and not capable to prevent it.

The disappointment for me is not that Russia or China not directly intervening, no one expected that, its the fact western European nations are united in their aggression but the global South or emerging nations all fractured.

Both Russia and China should have provided substantial arms to Iran for defensive purposes, but it seems either they are too wary of Iran or do not have spare.
 
Regime change in Iran will be immensely difficult to realise. For that to happen, the entire structure of power will have to be erased. Killing a few top individuals is one thing. Removing the entire system and replacing it with something else is entirely different.

The supreme leader and majority of the leadership are not "a few top individuals". What US are doing is weakening the West and Central part of Iran which hold vital cities like Tehran, Esfahan, Hamedan, etc and we will likely have an east and west Iran situation. It won't happen over night and will happen if Iran keep resisting, but the US and Israel seem to be going full steam with their plan with Iran's response both ineffective, weak and wavering.....or Iran negotiates to become a fully cucked nation that recognises Israel, no missiles, no nukes and probably open to foreign bases.
 
lol is this how define being friendly consisting around being neck-deep in strategic, economic, and military partnerships with the Indians massive trade corridors, defense cooperation, intelligence sharing, energy deals worth billions. Why should Pakistan blindly back the United Arab Emirates just because of remittances and optics, when the UAE is strategically welded to India, so spare the lecture about allegiance meanwhile, for all the Iranian flaws, they're not pouring billions into strengthening India's military or strategic infrastructure.
When UAE consistently bankrolls OUR rival and strengthens OUR competitors, calling it "friendly" isn't realism. It's denial. If you think UAE are "friendly" without questioning the obvious, then you're not thinking geopolitically instead you're just a fanboy who mistakes PR slogans for strategy.
lol too many UAE fanboys nowadays, SAAR please accept me
 
BREAKING | Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC):

"The Public Relations Office of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), in its eighth statement on Operation “True Promise 4,” announced that the seventh and eighth waves of the operation were carried out before noon today against US–Zionist targets through consecutive missile launches and the large-scale deployment of drones.

• The US Ali Al Salem naval base in Kuwait has been rendered completely out of service following recent strikes, and three US naval infrastructure facilities in Mohammed Al-Ahmad, Kuwait, were also destroyed.

• The US naval base at Mina Salman in Bahrain was hit by four drones, causing severe damage to its command and support centers.

• In continued attacks on hostile maritime targets, three US and British oil tankers in the Gulf region and the Strait of Hormuz were struck by missiles and are reportedly burning.

• US troop deployment sites in Bahrain were targeted with two ballistic missiles, and other US bases in the region were subjected to successive attacks, which the IRGC claims have resulted in 560 US personnel killed or wounded so far.

• Citing continuous ambulance sirens at US and Israeli bases, as well as field reports and intelligence monitoring, the IRGC claimed a psychological crisis among US forces and Israeli settlers, stating that increased targeted pressure by Iranian armed forces will further tighten conditions on them.

• The statement concluded by saying missile and drone strikes are continuing in a sustained and widespread manner, and that further operational achievements will be announced to the Iranian public.

'And victory is not but from Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.'"





It looks like the IRGC is putting majority of the pressure on the US bases in the PGCC than the missiles and drones they're launching against Israel. Could this be due to the the increased number of interceptors that are available to the Israelis than there are for US bases in the PGCC?

It is really ironic why the Pentagon and the WH prioritized Israeli security over that of American soldiers.
 
Rule number of international law: never rely on an external country for your defense or support during war.

I laugh every time I see Turkish boys talk about NATO article 5 when discussing potential future conflict with Israel.
Never in my life have I seen a Turk relying on Article 5. Source, please.
 

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