Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

 

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[Immortals]

 

[030292]

Trump changed his goals for the 384th time of this war

they want to turn iran into gaza, thats their goal but problem is they cant say that outloud.

 

[dbc]

It is definitely not going to change the outcome, but do you know what it will change? Your future buyers who believed the US 5th generation fleet to be invincible, if a country like Iran with virtually non-existent air defense can bring it down, imagine what China can do. Japan and South Korea will be a lot more nervous now, as would Europe.

You do know that the F-35's have been orbiting Iran and so far Iran has one hit. Thousands of sorties, thousands of targets vs the write off of one jet. You math ain't mathing, any air force will take that outcome any day of the week.

What Iran has shown is that interceptors need to get a whole lot cheaper and easier to mass produce. As far as Japan or S Korea , Iran has shown them that low tech, low cost solutions that worked against the US will work against China as well. They are probably already contemplating their own version of Shaheed and low cost BM's. Iran hitting long range radars in Jordan and Qatar is a far greater achievement in my opinion. It proves that swarm attacks are extremely effective. Large static sensors, radar installations and such are probably not that right call and needs to be revisited.

 

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[Hamartia Antidote]

You do know that the F-35's have been orbiting Iran and so far Iran have one hit. Thousands of sorties, thousands of targets vs the write off of one jet. You math ain't mathing, any air force will take that outcome any day of the week.

Yes, even Saddam was far more successful shooting down fighters.

 

[hasn2009]

Whatever is happening Allah wanted it.

That is what my abba (81 year old) told me.

Not necessarily, people worship idols, surely God doesn't like that. Allah has given free will and freedom of choice to everyone, otherwise it will not be fair to be judged on judgment day if people didn't have freedom of will, and God is fairest of all.

Off topic though, back to Iran.

 

[925boy]

Don't you think if there wasn't Mike Huckabee, Jared Kushner, Steve Whitkoff and Pete Hegseth Iran war could've been prevented? While sane voices within repbulican sphere are being silenced or sidelined. Cue Joe Kent.

This makes no sense when we accept that US fights wars every year, for 100s of years, meanwhile different govt officials run the US while US is in a new war.

Ukrainian version of what you said- "dont you think if there wasnt kamala harris, joe biden, etc ukrsine war coulsve been prevented?"

NO! Because US as an neo colonialist and imperialist nation has to fight wars, irrespective of who is in power.

Focusing on individuals in the US govt instead of the common ways and ideologies the US govt behaves and uses is a practice in self distractions and denial.

 

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[030292]

Because business is business. And if China started restricting certain minerals to US then U.S. would find Chinese trade pain points as well. I think a few rare earth materials are now banned for export but not a wide range of them.



A lot of these materials are dual use material. They have both civilian and military applications.

China was a major export economy for decades, the prioritized their economy and their deterrence over irrational trade policy. That may change in the future depending on US posture.

thank you so much for detailed answer, appreciate that.

 

[Bratva]

I want Saudis to be hurt. These retards have enough clout to have Trumps ear and sort this sh1t out.
Hope Iran knock some hardware out

If the clout was enough, the GAZA war would have stopped in 2025. Hurting Saudis would hurt Pakistan equally ( Defence Pact). Iran only chance to hurt GCC is attacking energy and water infrastructure. This is where real hurt lies and this will ultimately drag Pakistan once again to defend Saudi. It is not a time to be emotional when it comes to interests of Pakistan.

 

[Jugantor]

victory is always only a month or two away

This is following the Vietnam playbook.

The troop ramp up mirrors exactly that of Vietnam.

Once US loses a couple of hundred rats - it becomes a pride issue.

With every hundred soldiers lost the vengeance becomes more vile.

The best case is that US reopens it but to keep it open - US needs permanent presence.

But that just makes them a target and centre of Iranian grievance.

Until the Israeli bombing - secular nationalists and religious nationalists were divided.

Indiscriminate bombings has united all nationalists.

 

[clutch]

Saudi Arabia has done a lot for Pakistan and Pakistanis. Surprised you would be against Saudi Arabia.

That is debatable. They have been selective. You do have a valid point though. However, it's their betrayal of Gaza and support of Zionists terrorists is what puts them in the camp of FAFO.

Anyone, I mean anyone, who has turned a blind eye (no excuses) to the Gaza Genocide deserves devine retribution irrespective of how that comes upon you.

Besides, it is the Zionist Israeli agenda for the balkanization and fail state status for every nation around it, including Pakistan Saudi Arabia and the whole lot. They don't want Iran or any nation to be unified. They want failed States and Israel as the hegemon of the region. Netanyahuin is most recent speech, spoke about Israeli superpower. It's about pax Judaica. Israel recognizes America's power is waning as a hyper superpower in a unipolar world. Israel needs to fragment the nation's nearby. It's called a greater Israel project. So by opposing Saudi Arabia and confronting the Zionist, you're actually helping Saudi Arabia indirectly. You have to save the GCC from their own Zionist tendencies.

 

[Haz]

I want Saudis to be hurt. These retards have enough clout to have Trumps ear and sort this sh1t out.
Hope Iran knock some hardware out

When it comes to high Israeli priorities, I strongly doubt any country has enough clout to stop their actions. Maybe they can influence secondary matters, but not primary ones that Israel deem to be top priority for them.