Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakSword]

Well it's not JUST Pakistan discussing talks right now is it? Did you kindly forget Egypt and Turkey?

Well, everyone forgot about them.. only Pakistan for now on the social media, even in the GCC.

 

[Foinikas]

And they haven't succeeded in regime change.

That's extremely hard. I doubt even the Americans could achieve that. I doubt Iranians themselves can achieve that without become a post-2003 invasion Iraq.

The Kurds? You mean ~5,000 militias that haven't dared to even fire a bullet at Iran since this war has started? They're probably fewer than 5,000 militias now, after we have completely flattened their headquarters and bases in Iraqi Kurdistan.

No,I mean the SDF and other Kurds potentially supported by Iran(not fighting against Iran)

We will keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.

I'd do the same,but it's a verrrry slow war. Of course,if the prices start going too high,the West will be pressured to either finish the job with Iran or back off and sign a peace deal.

 

[Foinikas]

A secretary or an assistant is a leader? Do you even English, bro?

Iran had one "leader". Ali Khamenei. And he was killed on the first day of war. His son replaced him and is still there. End of story.

Lol all most of these are leaders in the sense they leading a part of the Iranian government or Armed Forces. It's what they call "the leadership". State officials,Army or or Pasdaran high-ranking officers etc.

 

[ShapurII]

That's extremely hard. I doubt even the Americans could achieve that. I doubt Iranians themselves can achieve that without become a post-2003 invasion Iraq.

Hard or not, it was their stated goal. Their first objective, the top one.

No,I mean the SDF and other Kurds potentially supported by Iran(not fighting against Iran)

OK, I misunderstood you then but just for your information, they are not fighting for Iran.

I'd do the same,but it's a verrrry slow war. Of course,if the prices start going too high,the West will be pressured to either finish the job with Iran or back off and sign a peace deal.

That's the plan. Either Iran wins this war and reaches a peace deal it wants or it loses completely and has to surrender. There's no middle ground. On the bright side of things, Iranians will finally know the fate of their country after this war.

 

[ShapurII]

Lol all most of these are leaders in the sense they leading a part of the Iranian government or Armed Forces. It's what they call "the leadership". State officials,Army or or Pasdaran high-ranking officers etc.

Nope, you got it wrong then.

The Leadership (Rahbari) in Iran has always referred to the Supreme Leader. He's the one that makes the final decision. Then you have Supreme National Security Council which consists of the President, the Head of Parliament, people appointed by the Supreme Leader and people appointed by the President.

A secretary or an assistant is not part of the decision making body in Iran.

 

[Shags101]

Seems like it.
Also an Israeli news outlet had an IDF Colonel saying that the 220 pound missile which hit Tel Aviv yesterday and caused a lot of damage was the first time he had seen such a missile.

Well they can’t hide it anymore now it’s becoming widespread it looks like all those extra interceptors they sent is now in the red(so many investigations) they can’t send a 6 to a 12 interceptors against one missile anymore the attempt at pretending that Irans ability to hit Israel is gone and now they are worried they used so many interceptors can Iran and yes they probably will very soon try to score some significant touchdowns by destroying Israel’s fragile energy infrastructure very soon and the long list of high priority targets all over Israel that will become shorter in the next couple of weeks

 

[Foinikas]

So if we hear you all the problems are because of Palestinians and Hezbollah, and that if they never existed Israel would have never annexed parts of Lebanon and would have let them become a middle east Switzerland

Don't try to twist my words and make it so simplistic.

No,it's far more complex than that. The PLO relocating in Lebanon though was a catalyst.

Because the PLO was getting involved in Lebanese politics and launching attacks against the yahood from Lebanese ground. They were doing the same as they did in Jordan.

That,combined with left-wing and right-wing political divisions caused the beginning of the civil war. And since it's Lebanon,add religious,ethnic and even tribal differences and you can see why it's chaos.

However,having powerful militias controlling entire parts of the country and being de facto independent,that weakens the country's stability.

 

[p200]

Idiots will join the war and weaken everyone in GCC ... paving the way for greater israel

They learned nothing from Lawrence of Arabia. This time it will Kushner of Arabia.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

The representative of PTI has given his position on negotiation talks being held in Islamabad.

He says Pakistani Army are anti-semitic terrorists

.... I had few conversations with this punk hanuya .roshannna lol......... ... Everytime word Pakistan comes around he shall remember the conversation... Go Pakistan let the haters hate and burn in their own rage ...

 

[Shags101]

Fox News has learned that the Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division Maj Gen Brandon Tegtmeier and his “command element,” members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered to deploy to the Middle East a

I think I called this awhile back they’re going to send a large airborne troops parachute them in with heavy weaponry but first try to bomb Iran defenses on the coast of Iran which if they knew where they were they would’ve bombed them by now so they’re just going to bomb every building insight

 

[Bratva]

They learned nothing from Lawrence of Arabia. This time it will Kushner of Arabia.

What do you think will happen when Iran destroys electrical and desalination plants in GCC?

 

[RescueRanger]

Well, everyone forgot about them.. only Pakistan for now on the social media, even in the GCC.

Social media ? Since when is social media credible ?

Pakistan offered to "mediate" - just as Turkey, Egypt and other friendly countries did.

 

[Foinikas]

Nope, you got it wrong then.

The Leadership (Rahbari) in Iran has always referred to the Supreme Leader. He's the one that makes the final decision. Then you have Supreme National Security Council which consists of the President, the Head of Parliament, people appointed by the Supreme Leader and people appointed by the President.

A secretary or an assistant is not part of the decision making body in Iran.

Bro,you're just hiding behind your finger now. They're taking out your high-ranking officials and your Statesmen and you're telling me "no,it's just the Supreme Leader that we lost,so
it's all good".

 

[Aggregate]

Hezbollah not going easy on israel .. there have been multiple rocket attack alerts at a time, almost every 5 minutes .. since several hours now.

They destroyed 4 tanks earlier and they must be decimating israel's border areas on their own.

 

[2ndstrike]

Their reasoning was that building an air force was out of the reach for them. A jet fighter has too many hi-tech components that is impossible to master for Iran without foreign help. And the US would still gain air superiority anyway. So, they decided to bet their money on missiles.

I have always been against that tactic, but it is what it is.

Even if Iran has the Su35 and Su57, it would not have a chance against stealthy F35 F22. It's useless to build a non stealthy airforce and eventually lose it all in one round of fighting. When you don't have the means of delivering ordances to your enemies via jets, your best option is to have the ordances delivered to your enemies via drones and ballistics missiles. As for air defence, we can see that long range air defence was never meant to be the sole and main weapon to fight against a first world air force like Israel, let alone a combined Israel and U.S. With the invention of cheap drones and stand off weapons, even if you can overcome electronic warfare jamming, your air defence will soak up all the rounds just to engage those munitions coming at your radar before you have a chance to aim at the jets. Air defence can only be effectively employed in Iran as part of an ambush with the air defence unit detecting and guiding the missiles with passive EO IRST. I think this passive detection amd ambush still works for air defence but you need thousands of these SHORAD like the Russian sosna to work.