Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Not likely to happen. The GCC states are not going to allow their livelihoods to be held hostage.


GCC countries are not in the driving seat here. It's Israel and America calling the shots.

As Trump just reminded the World yesterday... PRINCE MBS kisses his arse. They are only arse kissers... Not policy drivers.
 
I think protests in the United States have no impact on the current situation either.

Trump has undermined the rights of state governments, strengthened ICE, and has suggested more than once the idea of running for a third term; Trump is trying to become the ruler of the United States.

Trump has actually become a dictator
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You just mentioned reasons for why it could turn really ugly and have the potential to make an actual difference.
Social unrest and uppheaval happens because of societal anger and disenchantment with the state and its institutions. Not because whether or not Trump allows it to happen.

Trump have sown the perfect seeds for societal anger and uppheaval. He is absolutely hated by a majority of the population. His own MAGA base has fractured and shrunk. High profile such as Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and the latest Joe Kent have left him and is openly saying Trump is acting at the behest of a foreign country and leader. Trump has betrayed his election promises and his constituents. Even the average joe republican workers are beginning to realise what a fraud this guy is.

Wait a month or two with oil rising to 175 dollars a barrel. That will be a catastrophe for everyone (middle class and under) except the super rich.
Combine that with American soldiers dying en masse in a war of CHOICE, for the interest of an apartheid genocidal state.
You havent seen anything yet. Things can turn really nasty when the people come for Trumps jugular. And I believe there is a real chance of that.
 
GCC countries are not in the driving seat here. It's Israel and America calling the shots.

As Trump just reminded the World yesterday... PRINCE MBS kisses his arse. They are only arse kissers... Not policy drivers.
GCC needs to figure out if they want to continue with the stoppage of oil shipments or pay a toll fees. If they have even half of the IQ of a pigeon they will choose the latter.
 
You just mentioned reasons for why it could turn really ugly and have the potential to make an actual difference.
Social unrest and uppheaval happens because of societal anger and disenchantment with the state and its institutions. Not because whether or not Trump allows it to happen.

Trump have sown the perfect seeds for societal anger and uppheaval. He is absolutely hated by a majority of the population. His own MAGA base has fractured and shrunk. High profile such as Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and the latest Joe Kent have left him and is openly saying Trump is acting at the behest of a foreign country and leader. Trump has betrayed his election promises and his constituents. Even the average Joe republican worker are beginning to realise what a fraud this guy is.

Wait a month or two with oil rising to 175 dollars a barrel. That will be a catastrophe for everyone (middle class and under) except the super rich.
Combine that with American soldiers dying en masse in a war of CHOICE, for the interest of an apartheid state.
You havent seen anything yet. Things can turn really nasty when the people come for Trumps jugular. And I believe there is a real chance of that.
Nothing is gonna happen in the US. They like to show themselves as tough gun owning liberty lovin patriots, but the reality is they won't even fire a single shot at any LEAs the US can field to put down protests. They're weak self serving useful idiots that the politicians can sway for their interests and which the populace dick rides until the next election cycle.
 
Nothing is gonna happen in the US. They like to show themselves as tough gun owning liberty lovin patriots, but the reality is they won't even fire a single shot at any LEAs the US can field to put down protests. They're weak self serving useful idiots that the politicians can sway for their interests and which the populace dick rides until the next election cycle.

People dont have to take up arms to paralyze a state.
A lot can happen. Going on strike, blocking highways, roads, trains etc.
But other than that, yeah, there is also a possibility of violence occuring.

You're making an argument based on an assumption things will proceed as normal in the US. When you see rising fuel prices, groceries/food prices to obscene levels (remember, 50 % of the worlds supply of urea/food fertilizer goes through the Hormuz strait), then see what happens.

Things are relatively calm now, yes. Will it stay that way? Not so sure. Think a few steps down the road.
They werent even that calm to begin with. The situation in Minneapolis a few months ago was really volatile
 
Ok so it doesnt make sense, U.S is allowing Iran to export oil and even gave waivers until 19th april. This is supposedly to control oil prices, but if they indeed do invade kharg, it contadicts this as that will restrict irans oil exports which they are currently letting pass.

Theories:

1) kharg invasion is all a bluff/distraction
2) They will invade kharg but after 19th april, so until then they want to keep markets under control
3) They are playing iran to weaken arabs
 
You just mentioned reasons for why it could turn really ugly and have the potential to make an actual difference.
Social unrest and uppheaval happens because of societal anger and disenchantment with the state and its institutions. Not because whether or not Trump allows it to happen.

Trump have sown the perfect seeds for societal anger and uppheaval. He is absolutely hated by a majority of the population. His own MAGA base has fractured and shrunk. High profile such as Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and the latest Joe Kent have left him and is openly saying Trump is acting at the behest of a foreign country and leader. Trump has betrayed his election promises and his constituents. Even the average joe republican workers are beginning to realise what a fraud this guy is.

Wait a month or two with oil rising to 175 dollars a barrel. That will be a catastrophe for everyone (middle class and under) except the super rich.
Combine that with American soldiers dying en masse in a war of CHOICE, for the interest of an apartheid genocidal state.
You havent seen anything yet. Things can turn really nasty when the people come for Trumps jugular. And I believe there is a real chance of that.
We call Americans the cowards of North America because all they do is march, and the guns in their hands are only used in schools and stores.

This is a passage we studied in our philosophy class.

Under contemporary capitalist conditions, the weakness and compromising nature of the bourgeoisie still exist, only the form of their manifestation has changed. The modern bourgeoisie no longer faces issues of national independence and feudal oppression, but the alienating effects of capital logic on people still exist, and have even become more hidden and profound. The desire for capital accumulation drives the bourgeoisie to continuously adjust strategies and make various forms of compromise, while maintaining fundamental interests. The essential characteristic of the capitalist system is allocating resources and power according to the amount of capital.

Trump controls the greatest resources and power. At least before the midterm elections, Trump was still the emperor of the United States. For the sake of winning the midterm elections, Trump will become even crazier.

So, let us see what will happen next. We need to wait.
 
Zionists are playing extremely dirty, sure.
However, the question still remains, how are they being able to get the unabetted live intel on so many individual targets.

Certainly, it cannot be all ELINT based. So, why the zios HUMINT efforts are not being degraded. FFS these devils are going after mid ranking people in their homes with the families.
Iranian brothers what do you say here @Persian Gulf @Immortals @Emirzad @ResurgentIran2 @Kyussis
 

If true, this is precisely why Iran is focusing on the Gulf states. They are the outermost rim of assets, thus closest to Iran geographically and shielded by fewer other assets, therefore Iran will enjoy more success by targeting them.

Iran should ignore the noise and stick to the strategy that is giving it a genuine chance of k.o.'ing some of the nations that threaten it. Tel Aviv is the final boss.
 
Not likely to happen. The GCC states are not going to allow their livelihoods to be held hostage.
The optics problem for USA-Israel is that emotive semantics ring hollow when Iranian lives and livelihoods have been "held hostage" by deliberate targeting of universities, hospitals, and civilian areas during this war and prior to the war, a sanctions programme that -by the live and recorded admission of American officials themselves - was fully intended to cripple the Iranian currency.
 
People dont have to take up arms to paralyze a state.
A lot can happen. Going on strike, blocking highways, roads, trains etc.
But other than that, yeah, there is also a possibility of violence occuring.

You're making an argument based on an assumption things will proceed as normal in the US. When you see rising fuel prices, groceries/food prices to obscene levels (remember, 50 % of the worlds supply of urea/food fertilizer goes through the Hormuz strait), then see what happens.

Things are relatively calm now, yes. Will it stay that way? Not so sure. Think a few steps down the road.
They werent even that calm to begin with. The situation in Minneapolis a few months ago was really volatile
Mordor is a big country. A few states protesting don't matter.
 

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