Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Aggregate said:
If you look at the scale, then yes, Mongols were worse, but if you look at actual brutality in terms of hatred and the aim to eliminate the enemies, then Crusaders were far worse. They were just limited by their military power as compared to Mongols, but on par, they were far more dangerous.
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Mongols had an inhuman way of doing things. It's like saying "Oh Mongols exterminated more people,but it wasn't personal,just business".

Yasser76 said:
Muslims dont count I guess hey Foinikas?
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Mongols killing Muslims doesn't count I guess,EY YASSER?
 
ShapurII said:
Some of these numbers are not very relevant because they're from different centuries. 40 million people in the 13th century was about 10% of the entire world's population, if my Google results are correct.

And as I said, the Mongols didn't only kill people, they also killed animals, burnt down cities, destroyed forests, and committed many other atrocities. They depopulated regions, in the literal sense of the word.
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Europeans killed 95% of the Indigenous North American population, which was 21% of global population. They not only killed, but starved, abused and did a lot worse. There can be no comparison of what the West has done at any point in time, to any other civilization combined.

The modern Chinese, South Asians, Persians, Arabs, no one comes close by far. Mongols maybe, but they also dwarf in comparison to what Europeans did in North America, Australia, Africa , etc, alone
 
Iran need to build the kind of production capacity Russia has when it comes to drones

The Russian war machine is an absolute behemoth

They can produce 5000-7000 drones per month

And consistently over the last 18 months have launched over 5000 drones per month at Ukraine

Iran need the ability to launch roughly 300-500 drones per day for a sustained period of three months

All of the production and manufacturing needs to be in an underground safe facility

It’s clear no one can stop these drones when they launched in a coordinate synchronised way using AI jamming in large waves they cannot stop every drone
 
Foinikas said:
Mongols had an inhuman way of doing things. It's like saying "Oh Mongols exterminated more people,but it wasn't personal,just business".
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Nope, what I'm saying is that Mongols at least spared their enemies if they surrendered or laid down arms.

Crusaders killed their enemies unconditionally, they were killed even if they surrendered, on account of being Muslims or Jews. The only reason they killed 1/3rd as compared to Mongols is not because they were less brutal, it was because they we not as militarily powerful as Mongols.
 
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Aziqbal said:
Iran need to build the kind of production capacity Russia has when it comes to drones

The Russian war machine is an absolute behemoth

They can produce 5000-7000 drones per month

And consistently over the last 18 months have launched over 5000 drones per month at Ukraine

Iran need the ability to launch roughly 300-500 drones per day for a sustained period of three months

All of the production and manufacturing needs to be in an underground safe facility

It’s clear no one can stop these drones when they launched in a coordinate synchronised way using AI jamming in large waves they cannot stop every drone
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For that, Iran needs a powerful air force, air defenses and air cover. Anything that Iran builds will be decimated by the West. Even Russia is hardly able to defend its Military industry. Most military manufacturing can be moved underground, but a lot of support industry Aluminum/Iron/Chemicals/Materials, etc have to be overground just by nature of their processing. Consider fordow, where US dropped bombs into exhausts. Same can be done to any other materials processing facility as all of them would need an exhaust regardless. They cannot be a closed off system like Missile assembly, etc.

Maybe under current conditions, Iran can make a deal with Russians to set up Joint Iranian manufacturing in Russia.

It would be impossible to have anything of that sort, within Iran, just on account of the reach of Iranian enemies.
 
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