Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Zoyou said:
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Translation: we cant destroy Iran like Libya, we cant rape and kill pregnant women inside Iran like we did in Algeria.
 
tsunset said:
Iran should give MANPADS to EVERY citizen in southern Iran and give them fire at will commands

RIGHT NOW
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They should have MANPAD "squads" deployed on vehicles at specific intervals for "targets of opportunity like this" absolutely! Deployable teams that can drive quickly anywhere and fire off a few missiles at the minimum.

This operation went on for hours.
 
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Immortals said:
The problem with OTH is it cannot be used for targeting. It more detect to let radars know what vector to scan to get tracking. So it’s usually used for early warning to detect a massive attack so the air defense squads and airforce could get airborne. (Theoretically)
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Sure, OTH radars are used as early warning systems because they operate in long wavelengths to bounce back the ionosphere. Long wavelength means poor angular resolution due to diffraction. That's why every country operates a variety of radars in different wavelengths for early detection and tracking. The problem is that we cannot even detect flying objects in our airspace in real time, regardless of the resolution.

Immortals said:
Khuzestan is tribal governed and I’m sure Iran is focused on high value points right now. It’s disappointing that thousands of manpads haven’t been dispatched in southern Iran among the populace but it is what it is.
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Yes, it is what it is but my point is that this sort of failure can encourage the Americans to go ahead with their invasion plans.

Immortals said:
It’s highly likely it’s over. We keep seeing the same videos appears to be from the morning local time. This happened 7+ hours ago.

Just like with the KC tanker downing the results were already know just not made public for hours.
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Let's stay optimistic that we have done better than we think.
 
RescueRanger said:
Tbf USAF are good pilots. It's just overconfidence breeds complacency which leads to mistakes.
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Agreed, but still, as the OP Joked about (and hence my reply), the scenario of stealing an F14 Tomcat, shooting down 2 5th Gen fighters with it ... and Returning to base still seems a bit excessive even for the best of pilots. I still think they will end up having no clue how to fight a Tomcat.
 
Blowing up bridges and the other infrastructure in Iran further indicates a upcoming ground invasion. So the Irani troops cannot be mobilized from one city to another to fight.
China and Russia are helping out Iran but indirectly so far. But the moment they see Iran collapsing they will definitely step in militarily. Either it's going to stop the aggression against Iran or WW3. I hope the former. And they should step in earlier because each and every Irani life is precious. Though Zionist and American scum can die in millions no one cares.
 
Aggregate said:
Agreed, but still, as the OP Joked about (and hence my reply), the scenario of stealing an F14 Tomcat, shooting down 2 5th Gen fighters with it ... and Returning to base still seems a bit excessive even for the best of pilots. I still think they will end up having no clue how to fight a Tomcat.
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BVR > everything else. Those tomcat's are museum pieces.
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I have mentioned this as a target for economic counter value. Suprised it has not been targeted up to this point:

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Would severely hurt UAE reputation as it’s a massive enormously expensive datacenter.
 
SecularNationalist said:
Blowing up bridges and the other infrastructure in Iran further indicates a upcoming ground invasion. So the Irani troops cannot be mobilized from one city to another to fight.
China and Russia are helping out Iran but indirectly so far. But the moment they see Iran collapsing they will definitely step in militarily. Either it's going to stop the aggression against Iran or WW3. I hope the former. And they should step in earlier because each and every Irani life is precious. Though Zionist and American scum can die in millions no one cares.
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Nobody will step in militarily, I can assure you of that.

They're already in talks with the US and Arab states not to veto the Bahraini proposal to the UN Security Council as we speak.
 
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