Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

hasssanali8998 said:
maybe
but this admin has been hiding a lot of things
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Material losses and wounded are definitely not the same as leaving a dead soldier behind but yes definitely hiding a lot from the American and the world in general when you tell people not to show anymore images from satellites especially when it’s easily obtainable from eastern sources as well
 
Hamartia Antidote said:
Yes, and how did these tiny MH-6's make it deep into Iranian territory?
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They don't have the longest range and I highly doubt they can do aerial refueling...must be something on the ground for them to be unloaded from and to be refueled at.... 💡
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They made it in but they didn’t make it out
 
Persian Gulf said:
Hamas tried hard to do this in the final momths

They came close a few times but the conditions didn’t allow it

Remember when they shot that guy in the head instead of capturing him?
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I do not remember that specific example but yes they did try to gain bargaining chip when there were no signs at that time Israel was going to stop

Hamas sort of wants Israel stuck in Lebanon to buy time for itself considering mediators are currently informing Hamas that Israel will resume a ground occupation of entire Gaza Strip if Hamas doesn't disarm.

This is why Israel won't invade deeper in Lebanon and limited the ground operation in scale.

I'm also of opinion Israel is pushing Trump to target Iranian vital infrastructure so it can in return target GCC infrastructure and then both entities will be stuck in a humatarian catastrophe leaving Israel free to act in Gaza.

But I don't think this will work how Israel wants to it to work and is a very risky gamble by Israel.

Makes me wonder why Jewish-American community won't restrain the radical extremist government of Israel which is trying to facilitate their version of end times -- it makes them look complicit. Despite proclaiming to be a secular population and agnostic/atheist people, they're fully cooperating with Netanyahu to bring about Jewish version of end times
 
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Eşbah said:
Only if the Iranians accept the obliteration and bombardment of the nation's vital infrastructure.

The current geopolitical situation is the direct result from the misguided Iranian approach of restraint and 'strategic' patience.

The Israelis are firmly convinced that they exclusively manage the escalation process and the ongoing conflict, toggling the war on and off like a machine at their discretion, a belief unfortunately fostered by the Iranian leadership due to their hesitance over the years.

No matter the cost, if they want future generations of Iranians to live in peace, now is the time to make an example.
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I fear you may be right. The war of survival fought long ago by Turks (War of Independence) was the same simple dichotomy: backs to the wall, victory or eternal subjugation as a client state.
 
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