Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Musings said:
They have run out of Burnol.
Holding 14 days of national mourning.
Modi is ringing Netanyahu who has blocked him.
Not looking good bro
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They are running around as John and Aribo on various Western media sites and scolding Pakistan LOL

"Saaaaar, why was Pakistan allowed to mediate?"
 
Immortals said:
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Iran gave up its greatest leverage card for nothing but a pinkie promise and to maybe take “some” concessions into account during the next 2 weeks. In the end, the Mossad agents Jared and Witkoff will once again demand zero enrichment and full turnover of HEU and no missile development for a decade. And this government will parade it as a win.

This is the most retarded government I have ever seen in my life and I live in America which is saying something.
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That concern is no longer speculation; it's already a fact. Western media outlets are reporting that Trump is firmly maintaining his demands for Iran to completely abandon uranium enrichment and its missile program. Iran, having disengaged from combat readiness, will find it difficult to resist this pressure.
 
The war is not over for Lebanon

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Well one thing to say the way UAE was placed in this video and threw something on India at the end is a true representation of situation as UAE had a defence agreement with India and India did nothing..
 
Persian Gulf said:
I am not saying he’s being honest about it

I am correcting the record that he disavowed those 10 points.
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Read the legality of what the lawyers wrote in his truth social post. Can serve as a “basis” for a future deal.

Have you ever heard of the marketing ploy ‘“based” on a true story’? Basically the only thing that based means in that context is that it should loosely be similar to the original. However, it can also have great deviations and still be considered based on the original story.

That is what Iran agreed to. That 10 point agreement is gonna look a lot more like the 15 point agreement by the end of the negotiation.

Thank god we have Zarif’s JCPOA lackey negotiating for us. From the same nuclear negotiating team that had a U.S. spy infiltrate the group and was hanged. The same spy who had good relations with another likely spy: Shamkhani (one of the potential “future leaders” Trump talked about that Israel killed in the same opening day strike)….a member of the vaunted SNSC that is making critical foreign policy decisions for our great nation.

Yeah everything is going just fine…
 
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Garcia Sea said:
That concern is no longer speculation; it's already a fact. Western media outlets are reporting that Trump is firmly maintaining his demands for Iran to completely abandon uranium enrichment and its missile program. Iran, having disengaged from combat readiness, will find it difficult to resist this pressure.
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Just try to imagine how demoralized and betrayed our armed forces must feel now.

I couldn't sleep last night because of this humiliation.
 
Fatman17 said:
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Iran’s Supreme National Security Council says talks with US representatives will begin in Islamabad on Friday under Pakistan’s mediation and may last up to 15 days, following a limited pause in hostilities.

Tehran said the move does not signal the end of the war, adding that any final cessation depends on meeting its conditions, including sanctions relief, guarantees against future attacks, and regional arrangements.

It also said it has proposed a 10-point framework covering compensation, the withdrawal of US forces, and the Strait of Hormuz, while warning its forces remain ready to respond to any violations.
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I am sure security will be top most. One other thing that can be done is make both sides of the representatives stay in the same building most of the time.
 
It's important to know what your enemy is thinking. Listen to the voices of American citizens; nobody is happy. 100 out of 100 people are mocking Trump, saying he'll break his promises and start a war soon. Nobody thinks there's peace. When people are under pressure, they cling to wishful thinking and lose their ability to make rational judgments. Americans who have suffered no pain whatsoever and are enjoying a comfortable life are 100% certain of another war; understand what that means.
 
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Here is the first lie that Iran has already begun peddling.

That 64B assumes normal traffic. It also assumes that PGCC and Saudi Arabia will pay the toll. Not a Chance in Hell and will use their own pipelines to bypass it. Also that toll has to be split with Oman.

So in reality it’s $32B for Iran and that’s assuming full historical traffic with everyone paying the $1M share for Iran’s side. It’s a farce assuming Iran ever even gets the chance to implement the toll.
 
Those directly involved are unable to make rational judgments. You may be angry and think I'm just making brave statements from a safe distance. But that's not true. I can accept the facts because I'm in a third country with no vested interest and no religious affiliation. I was certain back in June of last year that Trump would definitely attack again. When people are influenced by wishful thinking, they make mistakes in their judgment. The people of the Middle East are clearly losing their composure in the face of US military force. From a third-party perspective, it's obvious you're being deceived. No matter how clever a con artist is, they're always exposed to a third party watching from behind.
 
Garcia Sea said:
It's important to know what your enemy is thinking. Listen to the voices of American citizens; nobody is happy. 100 out of 100 people are mocking Trump, saying he'll break his promises and start a war soon. Nobody thinks there's peace. When people are under pressure, they cling to wishful thinking and lose their ability to make rational judgments. Americans who have suffered no pain whatsoever and are enjoying a comfortable life are 100% certain of another war; understand what that means.
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The main indicator is what Israel says: if it cries it’s really happy and if it’s happy it’s really crying.

All indications are Israelis are “devastated” and calling this the “worst humiliation”. Translation they got a good deal and are super happy.

The Zionist will never come and show his thoughts to you openly. He also camouflages behind emotions to make him see afraid, weak, or losing the battle. This is a tactic to trick the enemy into false sense of security and having the upper hand.
 
omegalamba7xl9 said:
PAKISTAN ALSO THANKS CHINA FOR BEING STEADFAST BROTHER AND A WONDERFUL ALLY... THANKS FROM PAKISTAN
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To everyone,
No need for lengthy debate... it's one or more of these....
1- iran was weakened and couldn't do otherwise than accept thus ceasefire.
2- it's just deception, hence the u.s. and / or Israel will attack soon
3- the u.s. / allies economy got pressured to an extent that wasn't tolerable then needed to stop
4- pressure (unknown) from Russia/ China made the u.s. bend
 
Israel continues bombing Lebanon

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This is what Pakistan and China helped broker…a deal the enemy is already violating on day 1.
 
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