Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Goenitz]

@RescueRanger @Waz

I heard there is a complete science of negotiation. Like room temperature, beverages, lighting, timing (morning or evening or sunny, etc.).

I hope there is some introduction to Iranian culture, cuisine, tea, and pastries, and we can brief the Americans about these before meeting the Iranian delegation. That can help to break their already bias and misconceptions.

I know succession or power transfer in management is a complete discipline in management. I hope Pak is successful in doing that between the US and Iran delegations.

 

[Aryan_B]

Thread is not about india

Stop off topic posts

Brother ban all Indians would solve your problems

 

[Meengla]

BTW You are the one whose love for something blinds you..see the "wipe out" mention.

The whole 'wipe off' was clarified multiple times by Iran with references to the Soviet Union and the South Africa Apartheid. But you, by clinging on to that without contextualizing, tells where you stand: A blind supporter of Israel without perhaps even knowing that.
And how many times have the Israelis threatened Iranians?? Or this POTUS, whom you coyly denying your support, has talked about the 'Stone Age'??
Don't cling onto the words spoken by the Iranians decades ago without the context but look at the actual actions of the Israelis who you are supporting while pretending not to support.

 

[Aryan_B]

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The unintended consequence of Netanyahoos opposition to the two state solution is that there will be just one state long term and that Is Palestine

 

[hasssanali8998]

The Strait of Hormuz could reopen within the next two months, -White House advisor Hassett.

 

[ToddE]

Dates	Side	Aircraft	Count	Cost	Subtotal	Link
28 Feb; 1 Mar; 3 Mar; 6 Mar; 10 Mar	Israel	Elbit Hermes 900	9	43	387	https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/bj7w7td8kg
2 Mar; 6 Mar; 9 Mar; 28 Mar	Israel	IAI Heron	5	16	80	https://www.military.africa/2020/02/morocco-receives-iai-heron-uav-in-48-million-deal/
3 Mar; 6 Mar	Israel	IAI Eitan / Heron TP	3	40	120	https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/india-to-buy-15-harop-suicide-drones-from-israel-578947
22 Mar; 1 Apr	Israel	Elbit Hermes 450	2	2	4	https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-intentionally-crashes-uav-after-detecting-malfunction/
2 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	F-15E Strike Eagle	4	100	400	https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-news-2026/card/how-much-do-the-jet-fighters-that-crashed-cost--gLkKICTeiWqzVBsiSDVw
5 Mar; 6 Mar; 7 Mar; 9 Mar; 11 Mar; 13 Mar; 15 Mar; 20 Mar; 28 Mar; 31 Mar; 2 Apr; 5 Apr; 6 Apr	United States + Italy	MQ-9 Reaper	20	32	640	https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/06/10/why-the-air-force-needs-a-cheaper-reaper/
12 Mar; 13 Mar; 27 Mar	United States	KC-135 Stratotanker	8	221	1,767	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
27 Mar	United States	KC-46 Pegasus	1	221	221	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
19 Mar	United States	F-35 Lightning II	1	101	101	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/F-35_SAR_Dec_2022_25_July_2023.pdf
23 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	UH-60 Black Hawk	2	80	160	https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/09/30/2025-19040/arms-sales-notification
3 Apr	United States	HH-60W	2	290	480	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4241742/norway-hh-60w-helicopters
3 Apr	United States	A-10 Thunderbolt II	1	20	20	https://www.127wg.ang.af.mil/About-127th-Wing/Fact-Sheets/Article/3665798/air-force-a-10-thunderbolt-ii/
3 Apr	United States	CH-47F Chinook	1	220	220	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4182033/united-arab-emirates-ch-47f-chinook-helicopters
5 Apr	United States	MC-130J Commando II	2	115	230	https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104510/mc-130j-commando-ii/
15 Mar	Italy	Eurofighter Typhoon	2	120	240	https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/07/23/turkey-uk-agree-on-eurofighter-exports-in-step-closer-to-deal/
2 Apr; 3 Apr	UAE / Saudi Arabia	CAIG Wing Loong II	2	6	12	https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3349036/iran-demands-explanations-saudis-and-uae-after-chinese-made-drone-was-shot-down
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A380	1	446	446	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A321	1	130	130	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
9 Apr	US	RQ-4C Triton	1	200	200	https://thedefensepost.com/2025/05/08/rq4-global-hawk-guide/

Known and Acknowledged US/Israel/PGCC/NATO aircrafts destroyed/damaged ​

Numbers downed: 85​

Grand total of costed: ~ 6 Billion USD​

PS.
(1) Unknown cost and types of 3 Jets destroyed at Ben-Gurien Airport (Not included).
(2) Iranian claimed list is as follows:

- 2 F-15 (claimed friendly fire)
- 1 F-15 (Kuwaiti F-18?)
- 1 KC-135 (claimed shot down by Iraqi militias)
- 1 KC-135 (damaged, claimed mid-air collision)
- ~20 Hermes-900 (claimed by Iran)
- ~10 Heron family (claimed by Iran)
- ~24 MQ-9 Reaper
- 1 KC-135 (heavily damaged on the ground)
- 3 KC-135 (damaged on the ground)
- 1 F-35 (heavily damaged/crash-landed)
- 1 F/A-18E (light damage by SAM)
- 1 KC-135 (destroyed on the ground)
- 3 KC-135 (claimed damaged on the ground)
- 1 E-3 AWACS (destroyed on the ground)
- 1 E-3 AWACS (claimed damaged on the ground)
- 2 EC-130H (claimed destroyed on the ground)
- 1 UH-60 Blackhawk (hit by Iraqi FPV drone)
- 1 F-15E (shot down)
- 1 A-10 (shot down over Strait of Hormuz)
- 1 A-10 (damaged & crashed, northern P. Gulf)
- 1 HH-60 (hit and crash-landed in Iraq)
- 1 HH-60 (hit by small arms, damaged)
- 1 CH-47 (hit on the ground, irreparably damaged)
- 2 HC-130 (hit/destroyed on the ground by U.S.)
- 4 MH-6 (destroyed on the ground by U.S.)
- 1 RQ-4C Triton (shot down)
- 3 Jets of Un-known types at BenGurien Airport.

Total 90 Aircrafts.

Both sides match

 

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[Aryan_B]

RULE #1
NO INDIAN ALLOWED NEAR THAT SUMMIT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM...
RULE #2
NO INDIAN ALLOWED NEAR THAT SUMMIT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM
RULE #3
FOLLOW THE RULE #1 AND RULE #2
.....

very nice rules well done

 

[nervouscar]

Some fun facts (describing israeli gunpoint diplomatic connections)
The IAEA has conducted hundreds of inspections in Iran, with activity peaking around 2019 at 432 inspections.
There is no public, cumulative total count of inspections conducted in Israel by the IAEA( in simple words 0 inspections)
(source google ai)
Even the inspectors visiting iran for inspection were mossad agents

 

[Yasser76]

Iran gained invaluable experience of fighting US and Israel and Gulf Arabs.

US and Israel achieved nothing except radicalization of Iran.

This war united Iranians with their government and only made the Islamic Republic stronger.

Iran lost multiple 65-75 years old officials who were preparing for retirement and a new generation of officials will replace them.

For 86 years old Khamenei it is a Great Honor to die as a martyr.

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Israel and Gulf Arabs suffered significant damage to their infrastructure while US military bases in the region are decimated.

US and Israel exhausted their stockpiles of interceptors and precision-guided munitions.

US and Israel lost the war because declared goals like regime change and destruction of Iran's missile capabilities are not achieved.

This war showed limits of US military power - they cant get what they want with force.

And Arabs will pay all the damage and costs of this war to Iran through fees Iran collects from their oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran will rebuild everything that was bombed and Arabs will pay for it.

And the Houthis didn't even start shooting at ships in the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb.

This is a good point many of us seemed to have missed here. Iran has experiance in a mass conventional conflict with US and Israel. Many people can learn a lot from them...

 

[ToddE]

Dates	Side	Aircraft	Count	Cost	Subtotal	Link
28 Feb; 1 Mar; 3 Mar; 6 Mar; 10 Mar	Israel	Elbit Hermes 900	9	43	387	https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/bj7w7td8kg
2 Mar; 6 Mar; 9 Mar; 28 Mar	Israel	IAI Heron	5	16	80	https://www.military.africa/2020/02/morocco-receives-iai-heron-uav-in-48-million-deal/
3 Mar; 6 Mar	Israel	IAI Eitan / Heron TP	3	40	120	https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/india-to-buy-15-harop-suicide-drones-from-israel-578947
22 Mar; 1 Apr	Israel	Elbit Hermes 450	2	2	4	https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-intentionally-crashes-uav-after-detecting-malfunction/
2 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	F-15E Strike Eagle	4	100	400	https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-news-2026/card/how-much-do-the-jet-fighters-that-crashed-cost--gLkKICTeiWqzVBsiSDVw
5 Mar; 6 Mar; 7 Mar; 9 Mar; 11 Mar; 13 Mar; 15 Mar; 20 Mar; 28 Mar; 31 Mar; 2 Apr; 5 Apr; 6 Apr	United States + Italy	MQ-9 Reaper	20	32	640	https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/06/10/why-the-air-force-needs-a-cheaper-reaper/
12 Mar; 13 Mar; 27 Mar	United States	KC-135 Stratotanker	8	221	1,767	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
27 Mar	United States	KC-46 Pegasus	1	221	221	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/KC-46A_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf
19 Mar	United States	F-35 Lightning II	1	101	101	https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/F-35_SAR_Dec_2022_25_July_2023.pdf
23 Mar; 3 Apr	United States	UH-60 Black Hawk	2	80	160	https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/09/30/2025-19040/arms-sales-notification
3 Apr	United States	HH-60W	2	290	480	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4241742/norway-hh-60w-helicopters
3 Apr	United States	A-10 Thunderbolt II	1	20	20	https://www.127wg.ang.af.mil/About-127th-Wing/Fact-Sheets/Article/3665798/air-force-a-10-thunderbolt-ii/
3 Apr	United States	CH-47F Chinook	1	220	220	https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4182033/united-arab-emirates-ch-47f-chinook-helicopters
5 Apr	United States	MC-130J Commando II	2	115	230	https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104510/mc-130j-commando-ii/
15 Mar	Italy	Eurofighter Typhoon	2	120	240	https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/07/23/turkey-uk-agree-on-eurofighter-exports-in-step-closer-to-deal/
2 Apr; 3 Apr	UAE / Saudi Arabia	CAIG Wing Loong II	2	6	12	https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3349036/iran-demands-explanations-saudis-and-uae-after-chinese-made-drone-was-shot-down
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A380	1	446	446	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
21 Mar	GCC civilian	Airbus A321	1	130	130	https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-07/new-airbus-list-prices-2018.pdf
9 Apr	US	RQ-4C Triton	1	200	200	https://thedefensepost.com/2025/05/08/rq4-global-hawk-guide/

Known and Acknowledged US/Israel/PGCC/NATO aircrafts destroyed/damaged​

Numbers downed: 85​

Grand total of costed: ~ 6 Billion USD​

Total losses of Hormuz Traffic

Skylight — Oil/chemical tanker — GT: 30,040 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $81.8 million — Combined estimate: $133.8 million

Hercules Star — Oil products tanker — GT: 6,081 — Vessel cost: $19.7 million — Loaded cargo cost: $12.8 million — Combined estimate: $32.6 million

MKD Vyom — Oil tanker — GT: 42,010 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $73.3 million — Combined estimate: $147.3 million

Ocean Electra — Tanker — GT: 26,916 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $76.1 million — Combined estimate: $128.1 million

Athe Nova — Asphalt/bitumen tanker — GT: 2,502 — Vessel cost: $3.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $1.2 million — Combined estimate: $4.7 million

Stena Imperative — Oil products tanker — GT: 29,680 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $79.9 million — Combined estimate: $131.9 million

Pelagia — Bulk carrier — GT: 43,024 — Vessel cost: $36.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $53.6 million — Combined estimate: $90.1 million

Gold Oak — Bulk carrier — GT: 23,232 — Vessel cost: $29.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $24.6 million — Combined estimate: $54.1 million

Libra Trader — Crude oil tanker — GT: 160,601 — Vessel cost: $128.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $307.1 million — Combined estimate: $435.1 million

Safeen Prestige — Container ship — GT: 18,252 — Vessel cost: $56.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $94.8 million — Combined estimate: $150.8 million

MSC Grace — Container ship — GT: 155,104 — Vessel cost: $220.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $872.0 million — Combined estimate: $1.092 billion

Sonangol Namibe — Crude oil tanker — GT: 83,469 — Vessel cost: $86.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $156.8 million — Combined estimate: $242.8 million

Louise P — Oil products tanker — GT: 17,858 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $40.4 million — Combined estimate: $92.4 million

Mayuree Naree — Bulk carrier — GT: 19,891 — Vessel cost: $29.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $19.7 million — Combined estimate: $49.2 million

One Majesty — Container ship — GT: 78,410 — Vessel cost: $115.1 million — Loaded cargo cost: $366.5 million — Combined estimate: $481.6 million

Star Gwyneth — Bulk carrier — GT: 43,027 — Vessel cost: $36.5 million — Loaded cargo cost: $54.1 million — Combined estimate: $90.6 million

Express Rome — Container ship — GT: 113,973 — Vessel cost: $133.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $551.2 million — Combined estimate: $684.2 million

Source Blessing — Container ship — GT: 40,146 — Vessel cost: $49.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $176.4 million — Combined estimate: $225.4 million

Zefyros — Oil products tanker — GT: 29,924 — Vessel cost: $52.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $80.5 million — Combined estimate: $132.5 million

Safesea Vishnu — Oil products tanker — GT: 42,010 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $73.2 million — Combined estimate: $147.2 million

Gas Al Ahmadiah — Oil products / gas tanker — GT: 49,394 — Vessel cost: $74.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $44.1 million — Combined estimate: $118.1 million

Al Salmi — Oil products tanker — GT: 162,625 — Vessel cost: $128.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $316.3 million — Combined estimate: $444.3 million

Haiphong Express — Container ship — GT: 113,509 — Vessel cost: $133.0 million — Loaded cargo cost: $550.5 million — Combined estimate: $683.5 million
Grand total

Total vessel cost: about $1.7 billion

Total loaded cargo cost: about $4.3billion

Combined estimate: about $6 billion

PS. Not included in the list is USS Gerald Ford CBG - IRGC claims of Long ranged AShCM (Taliyeh and Paveh) strikes. Massive fire broke on the ship resulting in 20 month long decommission and withdrawal from battlefield. Trump confirmed massive attack on CBG.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Babe wake up new pahlavist cope has dropped
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I seriosuly doubt if its even a Pahalvi Saaar.

he was doing Phul support for Ijrael from Dehli slums imagining himself as a white Eastern European Israeli, trapped with a white bootyfoool woman "Tell A beeeb" in a bunker Saaar.

He even did some Emarati phul supooort .. if required again he will do it Saaar.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Now, this seems like a conspiracy. This is not normal. A single message was enough.
I hope Rafiq must state that his account was hacked or so. I thought GHQ was behind that tweet, but now seems it is Bao ji...

Saad rafiq's tweet is still ok. Khawaja asif tweet was actually antisemitic rant. It wasn't focused just at Israel but included European jews and even targeted Europeans to be burn in hell, for creation of Israel.

Khawaja asif looks like an illiterate person, It was seriously absurd for a state's official. Such could be tolerated if any opposition member say something like that. Even Iranians do not post antisemitic statements. Iran have lots of jews, they have synagogues in Tehran.

We Pakistanis overall needs to be educated that all jews world wide are not bad or "evil". Its state of Israel or more particularly the zionists that we need to be concerned of.

 

[BHAN85]

Peace in the gulf was a easy thing.

It didnt need deals, negotiations, recognitions, or related shit.

It just needed USA and Israel restraint from bomb each living being around.

And now the twisted liar USA to tell us, it's needed a lot of money, a lot of diplomacy, and so on. More American bullshit, they will increase the problem again, like they did in 2015.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

They should escort all the way to Tehran with AWACS and refueler support while keeping our kill chain envelop. Ofcourse with Iranian permission.

Taimoor bhai ,
I will say again, we can ondly much. lets hope it never comes to that.. if Israelis are hell bent on sabutage then they will do it with American approval. they are like tag team wrestlers. And Israelis will get all American support in such attempt.

my prayers for Iranians , lebanese and Palestinians and the ordinary people of GCC who are cought in this war of agression.