Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[KingQamaR]

Well, since my post, Trump just announced yet another TACO.

I think he will wait a while. I do agree that the threat will become greater with time, but Trump is trying to first weaken Iran internally via this blockade, in order to enable an easier military operation.

The US troops are there now because Gulfies are now very scared of being economically vapourised within 2 months from cheap Iranian drones if hostilities restart.

I feel we are genuinely in a state of stalemate at present.

I forgot to mention. Iranian ships are also running the blockade by using Pakistan’s & Indian territorial waters. Some are caught and stopped around when they come out into Sri Lanka waters

 

[tsunset]

Americans keeps making the same mistakes over and over again in all of their 200 years of history

Thinking they are safe from attacks on their homeland, just like Israel thought their fancy Iron Quantum Beams and Arrow-3 were going to intercept 100% of all missiles and that they would finish the regime in 2 weeks

Same mistakes, over and over again

The reality bomb will be very brutal

 

[KAL-EL]

Man, there is one in charge that is also playing a video game. And things got terribly bad.

Unfortunately that is true. Being as he is the most powerful man in the world, I would say he would probably have an Uber crazy high-end setup

And we can't forget the mini McDonald's he had installed

 

[KingQamaR]

Too simplistic to declare an Iranian victory presently.

Both sides have lost much, perhaps Iran less so overall than USA (casualties are only part of the overall calculus here).

But there are other players whose outcome from this war is not yet fully elucidated - Israel being the important one. Tehran won't know security until Israel is put in its place - that is why it is impossible to declare an Iranian "decisive victory" per se.

This war will be unsustainable and completely counterproductive for the US. It will not be accepted at all by GCC Gulf states., which may even side with Iran, who will fight tooth and nail to protect their oil resources and interests. The blockade is also killing there economies big time .

 

[KAL-EL]

There are many sleeper cells in the US with drones waiting for their moment of glory

Yeah okay.. like they wouldn't have used them by now. If true though, and I doubt it, I wonder what the response would be?

Of course I know the answer to that question because I live in the real rational world, and so do the leaders in Iran.

 

[kobra]

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CNN exposing the extent of damages of TOTAL US victory.

 

[ShapurII]

Well, this @ShapurII guy on this thread has also been pushing that same "iran will soon have internal protests narrative and its currency will collapse", so he's probably been swallowing all the zionistic msm propaganda, hook line and sinker. And when u disagree wirh him and stand your ground, he will blow up on you and start attacking you.

Because I'm tired of people like you who have been failing to see the inevitable at every turn and spew stupid propaganda nonsense all the time. Nothing you write is of real value and it's just a waste of bandwidth. Always the same stupid nonsense like 1) Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons, 2) Iran doesn't need an air force, 3) Iran's strategy is brilliant even though we have killed fewer Israelis and Americans than Hamas and Hezbollah or rag-tag militias, 4) Iran's responses to US aggressions have been adequate, etc. all sorts of stupid stuff that have put Iran in this situation.

We said here, for years and years, that missiles will not be able to replace an air force. On the issue of defense, missiles are completely useless. Even in offense, Iran's missiles have proven to be useless for establishing deterrence because we do not have access to real-time data to hit Arab countries around us, let alone the issue of distance from Iran to Israel.
One attack by the ancient outdated F-5s of the IRIAF killed 5 Americans and injured at least 8 soldiers in Camp Buehring of Kuwait. That's more than what our missiles have achieved in Ain al-Assad, TP1, TP2, TP3 and the recent war combined.
Had Iran killed +500 American soldiers in the last two wars and injured thousands, the US wouldn't have been publicly threatening another round of war with Iran with such audacity.

If you were Iranian, I might've given you a pass or some sort of respect at least. But you are not Iranian. So, you don't get that from me either. It is literally an issue that does not concern you as a Nigerian. You don't see me comment on Nigeria when I know nothing about the country, do you?

 

[kobra]

These FPVs are lethal

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[mythbuster]

There are no "ifs" and "buts" or caveats. The Islamic Republic is incapable of managing liquidity and is entering hyperinflation. Its currency is turning into shit. There's a 60-day digital blackout that has made millions unemployed in Iran. Large companies are laying off people. People cannot pay their rent and are using their credits to buy food, basically buying time while everything is getting exponentially worse every month. It's 100% obvious where it's leading to. Just wait and you will see.

It takes balls to accept the bitter reality and make unpalatable tough decisions.

 

[Meengla]

This war will be unsustainable and completely counterproductive for the US. It will not be accepted at all by GCC Gulf states., which may even side with Iran, who will fight tooth and nail to protect their oil resources and interests. The blockade is also killing there economies big time .

Unfortunately, due to paucity of time, I had to rush through my favorite Chas Freeman video but starting about this time of the video, he is talking about a new alignment in the Gulf and also mentions Pakistan.

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[Magi]

Iran should invade the little UAE. If America can take Venezuela and Greenland... israHell can take Palestine, Syria, Lebanon.... Why can't Iran take UAE.

All the Gulf countries are fake nations.

Landgrabs are not a part of Iranian political ideology and strategy. Iran differentiates itself from the mentioned countries by not doing the same things. For example Iran will never do a Minab school in UAE or IL despite being the victim of it.

That doesn't mean Iran will tolerate hostile governance in places like UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait. They may continue to exist within the same borders but they must realign as friendly to Iran. Under the same leaderships or otherwise.

Bahrain may be the only exception due to historical reasons. Bahraini people may get a vote to join Iran but the drive must come from the Bahraini people themselves.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I mean- who can stop iran in the persian gulf now? nobody,not even US, so no one is protected effectively. Pakistani troops can't save Saudi whorabia if iran wants Saudi bombed to stone ages, they are simply lucky that islamic sympathy and rational thinking by iran will save them.l from attacks.

Don't you think the first thing these countries are going to do when this all quiets down is to arm themselves with ballistic missiles.

If anything this is going to expand the military buildup in the Gulf...and it wont be the US selling them offensive missiles.

Remember this

Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hussain0216]

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[Magi]

Don't you think the first thing these countries are going to do when this all quiets down is to arm themselves with ballistic missiles.

If anything this is going to expand the military buildup in the Gulf...and it wont be the US selling them offensive missiles.

Remember this

Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They have no shortage of materiel today. Buying a few more toys will change exactly nothing.

 

[KingQamaR]

Unfortunately, due to paucity of time, I had to rush through my favorite Chas Freeman video but starting about this time of the video, he is talking about a new alignment in the Gulf and also mentions Pakistan.

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Pakistan has potential, capacity to help GCC and will, and recently it has proved its worth in short but intense military engagement with India. That’s why unfortunately the US has always tried to control our corrupt politicians and political activity in Pakistan, they know that Pakistan as the nuclear capability it is the one that can scare ISRhell and its destructive ways in the Middle East . So many nations the US has ruined so that ISRhell terrorism can go unchecked. Imran Khan would have been the right man for this new order .unfortunately he ran his mouth to often and got put away by dark forces in Pakistan & Washington. And yes, Turkey could easily play a massive role in this new realignment taking place in the Middle East. But sadly for them they are always kept hostage by NATO and EU. On crucial geopolitical decisions.