Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

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So, the UAE wants a "collective" response from the PGCC states, while only a few days ago it gave all the PGCC a big fat middle finger by leaving OPEC?

lol - what is wrong with the brains of the "leadership" in the UAE ?

 

[Immortals]

To emphasize what I have been saying a lot of time: This is a personal war of choice and only happening because two super Zionists like Netanyahu and Trump are in power at the same time.

This war needed to happen because we were stuck in a status quo of no war, no negotiations. So naturally something needed to break this impasse.

If Kamala Harris was in power, Iran would still be under containment and heavy sanctions with no means to escape from. 2015-2025 was more economically damaging to iran without a single shot being fired.

Biden’s election didn’t change the status quo. He didn’t even attempt to resurrect JCPOA, which he promised to do and it’s his best friend (Obama) signature policy achievement.

The democrats coming back will just mean a return sanctions and containment unless Iran can change the reality in the West about the nuclear file. The Dems don’t have the political capital that they had in Obama era to bring a JCPOA like agreement back to the table.

 

[Ali_Baba]

@Persian Gulf

Large quantities of RBS-70s are now operational how - that i do not know

How ? From where ?

 

[TallGuy]

How ? From where ?

they had there own quite a large stock of non-operational RBS70s since 90s they were stored due to lack of spares - how they were able to make them operational is anyones guess.

thats what is going around. but my problem is RBS-70 does not operate on same principals of engagement as nor IIR MANPADS. how they got it operatinal and how they will utilize is anyones guess.

 

[BHAN85]

This is a personal war of choice and only happening because two super Zionists like Netanyahu and Trump are in power at the same time.

Have you forgotten this happened under Obama administration?

2011–2012 Strait of Hormuz dispute - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How could be?

Obama only did JCPOA after Israel (a part of Israeli state) refused to attack Iran.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/did-shimon-we-cant-go-it-alone-on-iran-peres-shatter-the-precedents-of-presidents/

Those days the pressure against Iran was a lot higher than now.

Now it's only USA and Israel like you say (and Macron, and some GCC in private messages).

But those days it was Russia and China allowing sanctions in the UN against Iran (2010) and EU putting sanctions against Iran (2012), Putin cancelling S300 delivery to Iran after Kissinger friend visit and so on.

The reasons behind Iran war are a lot bigger than zionists interests. It's a long term plan, attempted several times by USA through all kind of twisted plots.

I think Gaza war, and even Lebanon war, it's just pure zionist evilness. But Iran war is another thing, with world reach consequences.

 

[Meengla]

This war needed to happen because we were stuck in a status quo of no war, no negotiations. So naturally something needed to break this impasse.
If Kamala Harris was in power, Iran would still be under containment and heavy sanctions with no means to escape from. 2015-2025 was more economically damaging to iran without a single shot being fired.
Biden’s election didn’t change the status quo. He didn’t even attempt to resurrect JCPOA, which he promised to do and it’s his best friend (Obama) signature policy achievement.
The democrats coming back will just mean a return sanctions and containment unless Iran can change the reality in the West about the nuclear file. The Dems don’t have the political capital that they had in Obama era to bring a JCPOA like agreement back to the table.

I can agree with the part of 'this war needed to happen' but I don't agree with many here who think there is an equivalcece between the Republicans and the Democrats when it comes to the Middle East. Far from it. Far, far from it and increasingly so. But it is disappointing to see that so many here don't notice who the Israel-firsters are supporting more in America and who they are more afraid of in the American politics.

Such laziness, despite all the evidence, clearly shows why only 2% of Jewish Americans kick ass of the combined Muslim and the Progressive block which is far larger. Money is not everything in America: It is a democracy after all where smart electioneering does make a difference and many times even against the AIPAC. Many, many times.

 

[030292]

UAE thought they could get out of OPEC and sell their oil at their price and quantity. This maybe a "not so fast" message to them..

I think so too, this is a shot across the bow by iran with ksa's blessing to put uae back into their place, they were getting too big for their shoes.

 

[Taimoor]

UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

We reserve the full and legitimate right to respond to these attacks

Have a sneaky feeling, Saudis at best would be looking the other way.

 

[Meengla]

I think so too, this is a shot across the bow by iran with ksa's blessing to put uae back into their place, they were getting too big for their shoes.

UAE is extremely stupid. Mindboggling stupidity considering Pakistan's Punjab Police is alone to defeat and occupy that 'nation'.

 

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[Aziqbal]

How did it start ?

First some tankers were hit ?

 

[Flotilla]

It is still the same democracy where you find the best you can work with--and not be losers like the Green Party.

Mr. Meengla.

This Democracy nearly invaded Greenland, a place that is under the rule of the BEST ALLIED US HAD in Europe, Denmark.
Denmark bought nearly everything from US, and avoided like tobacco the European procurement programs.
This Democracy was hinting to invade Canada!.
They got out of the Paris Agreement, they got out unilaterally from the WHO and UNESCO... and then gave unwilling support to Genocide in Gaza.
IMO you´re wrong if you think you can work with Trump administration at any area. Even economics. They just jumped away from a ceasefire between EU and US tariff wars.
He´s simply crazy.

 

[Hazard]

Here we go again...sh*it's about to hit the fan.