Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

The Trump latest stunt of requiring the Abrahamic Accord as a condition for some 'deal' is already fizzling out. Pakistan officially already deflected that without annoying Trump and an MOU is almost ready to be signed.

Why wouldn't the Americans try to get out of this war? What could be achieved more other than doing some Dresden style bombing which would kill the civilians and destroy Iran? But a destroyed Iran would not be a 'victory' when the global economy tanks--yes, there are significant costs even to the Americans in that case. And speaking of Dresden style bombing of Iran: That carries a lot of risk because Iran has at least some credible air defense system to shoot down fighter jets and expensive drones.

It’s a humiliating defeat for the US and quite possibly their fastest strategic defeat they’ve ever experienced. Just an epic failure, no matter which way we cut it……just looks real bad:

 

[Ali_Baba]

From the same source link:

The draft Trump has shared is not vastly different to the one that has been circulating across the Middle East for days, under which the strait of Hormuz would be opened to commercial shipping, the US blockade of Iranian ports would be lifted and Iran would be given access to as much as $12bn (£9bn) in frozen assets.

The aim would be for commercial shipping in the strait to return to pre-war levels within 30 days and for negotiations envisaged to last as long as 60 days to commence on the future of Iran’s nuclear programme. This would include discussions about its stockpile of highly enriched uranium, a time-limited suspension of further enrichment and supervision by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN’s nuclear watchdog. Iran would renounce the use of nuclear weapons.

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The current scope of the agreement would be deeply unpalatable for Israel, because it defers Iran making any firm nuclear commitments and requires a permanent ceasefire to include Lebanon.

The language of the "ceasefire" does not include Israel leaving Lebanese terriority, just to stop bombing and stay where they are.

 

[VCheng]

The language of the "ceasefire" does not include Israel leaving Lebanese terriority, just to stop bombing and stay where they are.

These are still drafts being circulated thus far. I would like to wait to see the final signed version to know the details.

 

[FUB]

آبِ پاکی را روی دستش ریخت

Everything else is just theatre

 

[FUB]

Pay attention. Everything else is just noise.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Pay attention. Everything else is just noise.

The CEO of Chevron said the same thing.

 

[FUB]

The exact reason why they bombed the top tier universities and Pharmaceutical companies.

 

[lightning f57]

Pay attention. Everything else is just noise.

IAEA chief saying we will hit the red line in June, Exxon chief saying similar, you can see why in reality trump is in a hurry despite what he says. The attacks on irgc boats is also a sign of desperation where they are probably contemplating carrying out a large scale attack to open the SOH but they know Iran has strategic advantage due to territory. All it takes is one drone to hot a tanker.

Iran needs to squeeze trump make him squirm, force Israel to stop bombing Lebanon and only open soh if they release Iranian assets.

 

[tsunset]

They just made a deal

 

[Homajon]

 

[Samlee]

Trump didn't get the win he wanted with Iran something tells me he is going to take his frustrations out on Pakistan and GCC countries

 

[Watandar]

Trump didn't get the win he wanted with Iran something tells me he is going to take his frustrations out on Pakistan and GCC countries

I don't think so. He was desperate for someone, anyone to bail him out.

 

[Professor Jiang]

The exact reason why they bombed the top tier universities and Pharmaceutical companies.

But VCheng told me Iranians are eating grass?

 

[RocketLaw]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iran is not going to allow any American presence on its territory to "dig out the nuclear dust" ... Period.