Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

Some folks just can't help themselves.

Also hot as heck here I literally have the Everglades on fire right out my home right now……off topic but honestly nothing going on right now over there other than looking like Bibi might be looking at a new war in Syria very soon needs to keep this up until the elections

 

[PK781]

satanyahu needs war to keep his charade going, he wont care what he does but he will ensure war continues. Their very existence is relying on that.......even if it means torching the american empire in the process.
The american deepstate and apparatus is no longer secure, its been heavily infiltrated with mossad agents who're loyal to israel. Too little too late for the americans now. They've let one too many slip ups.
Remember they can kill people like JFK and do false flags like 9/11.

 

[Hayabusa]

This guy looks worse than war criminal netanyahu. Atleast the latter is not traitor to his evil entity.

Honestly a very difficult choice.

On one hand, you have a master manipulator orchestrating a genocide and wiping out tens of thousands of innocent civilians. On the other hand, you have a power hungry idiot calling for the slaughter of his own people all while being a massive coward who knows the second he steps off a plane in Tehran, an angry mob will be waiting for him. It is wild seeing two different brands of absolute tyranny playing out.

On the other hand, it feels like both groups of supporters are almost on par with each other when it comes to being toxic and terrible. Israeli side definitely takes the cake in terms of how bad it gets, but both camps make it almost impossible to have a rational discussion anymore. The only real difference for me is that I've at least come across a few normal Israelis online or in person, but I have yet to see a single Pahlavi supporter who acts like a normal human being.

 

[ShapurII]

So, can anybody explain in layman terms what Iran has achieved by signing the MoU so far?

From all I read in the news, it seems that the negotiations are nothing but a sham and bound to fail. Iran's economy is still tanking just like during the war.

Does Iran want to be attacked again during negotiations? 2 times hasn't been enough yet? There should be a third time?

 

[Randaam Janmam]

I was hoping and even praying Modi wouldn't go to the funeral: For far too long, Indians have gotten away with their hypocritical policies in Middle East and the Islamic World in general. Modi is removing that mask. Good. Especially good for Pakistan!



Unbelievable insult to Iran to send such low level Indian officials and that too one apparently a Muslim and one a Christian? Would sending a Hindu to be much for the RSS?

You might want to be quiet about things you know nothing about.

That "low level officer" (Syed Ata Hasnain) was once India's Director General of Military Operations. He also commanded two spearhead corps of the Indian army. He was also the commander of the Rashtriya Rifles, and in that capacity he decimated the Kashmir insurgency. In short, he was trusted with, and responsible for keeping Kashmir Indian.

Syed Ata Hasnain

And Pabitra Margharita is a practicing Hindu, and a staunch BJP guy through and through.

And by the way, India's diplomacy and diplomats are not selected by their religious credentials.

 

[PakistanLVR]

You might want to be quiet about things you know nothing about.

That "low level officer" (Syed Ata Hasnain) was once India's Director General of Military Operations. He also commanded two spearhead corps of the Indian army. He was also the commander of the Rashtriya Rifles, and in that capacity he decimated the Kashmir insurgency. In short, he was trusted with, and responsible for keeping Kashmir Indian.

Syed Ata Hasnain

And Pabitra Margharita is a practicing Hindu, and a staunch BJP guy through and through.

And by the way, India's diplomacy and diplomats are not selected by their religious credentials.

Okay? F**k that “Shia” P3j33t and F U too, Hindu.

 

[PakistanLVR]

I was hoping and even praying Modi wouldn't go to the funeral: For far too long, Indians have gotten away with their hypocritical policies in Middle East and the Islamic World in general. Modi is removing that mask. Good. Especially good for Pakistan!



Unbelievable insult to Iran to send such low level Indian officials and that too one apparently a Muslim and one a Christian? Would sending a Hindu to be much for the RSS?

What do you expect out of low IQ subhumans? Hindus made their bed with the Israelis and UAE. Pakistan better had demanded as a mediator to place pressure on these dindus and squeeze them hard. They actively took a part and chose a side because they’re bought into the system and were confident that Iran will fall and they will receive the spoils. But God plans too

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

signing the MoU so far?

Well for now it has caused orange to manage the fallout.
Pulling a fast one on Iran... while dealing the terms on the table... he's simultaneously going bilateral with third parties to play catch.
Arm twisting Oman to get another route going simultaneously where he wants to make buck. Having zion do a parallel deal with Lebanon to deal with Hezbollah. One major reshuffle is going on in the region. Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are being primed for destabilization. This all doesn't bode well for the whole region including gulf that now are playing with fire that will burn the whole thing to ashes. Zion could care less... they want perpetual war and THEY WANT DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF THE WHOLE REGION. Fixated on their own project the only thing that can worry them is something that ends their joy ride.

 

[hasssanali8998]

low level

still low level indians officials , funny tho how the Khamenei saw u guys/modi as close friends and u couldnt even bother sending someone high up

by the way, India's diplomacy and diplomats are not selected by their religious credentials

lol
funny considering Ata Hasnain was definitely chosen because he is muslim and probably a shia

 

[PK781]

So, can anybody explain in layman terms what Iran has achieved by signing the MoU so far?

From all I read in the news, it seems that the negotiations are nothing but a sham and bound to fail. Iran's economy is still tanking just like during the war.

Does Iran want to be attacked again during negotiations? 2 times hasn't been enough yet? There should be a third time?

You’re right. Too many times the so-called muslim countries show the stupid RESTRAINTS to the enemy which always means they regroup and come back harder.
Iran showed restraint to gulf/israel/usa and pakistan did to india and it only gave a temporary victory while the enemy gets time to gather more ammo and do more propaganda and proxy crap.

All these ceasefires mean jack shit. War will definitely resume as the Zions cannot tolerate anyone in their way of making greater isrsel. Actually its the cuck muslim “leaderships” that want to continue to appease the West and get some imaginary gold medals or some visas to the west and look good in saying shit like “oh look we saved the world from destruction” while in reality its just they kicked the destructive war can down the road…

Don’t expect much from the mou or any other regional “ceasefires”, its all bullshit. Ordinary people are being fooled by these illusions of peace.

Enemy no longer fears us because we keep showing restraints in the name of peace, enemy tskes it as cowardice snd will attack with more destructive weapons next time.

I get it that these leaders want a peaceful luxury lives but it ain’t happening……sooner or later the war will come to their doorstep again and again bcsz they show restraint and cowardice

 

[BigMela2onin]

Iran showed restraint to gulf/israel/usa and pakistan did to india and it only gave a temporary victory while the enemy gets time to gather more ammo and do more propaganda and proxy crap.

There's no real path for an Iranian military victory unless the US decides to launch a land invasion and videos of FPVs hitting US teenagers begin to be posted on the internet. The US navy can just sit in the Indian ocean forever; Iran had and has no answer to the naval blockade. Hitting PGCC oil facilities turned out to not matter because the investors and markets cared more about Trump's tweets than drones hitting tankers. The jews don't care if their semitic arab cousins get bombed anyways. The path to a nuke has been destroyed in the short term so can't really break out either.

 

[atmi_bum]

Azzhooles in Tel Aviv and elsewhere are truly fearful if this materializes.

Sadly Muslim world is always reactive/on defensive mode. Bad policy with horrible consequences.

Take an initiative at least for once.

Carrots are being dangled to Turks as of now and Rawalpindi is being continuously praised by Washington in an uncanny manner - Only to stop them from formalising this alliance.

We'll discuss this here and related tidbits

Israel has nothing to worry about. This is just another attempt at an alliance, a security architecture, a pact, a Muslim NATO, or whatever the flavor of the month is.

That Turkiye is involved is all you need to know. The only thing they do about Israel is bark but never bite. I don't expect it to go anywhere.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Israel has nothing to worry about. This is just another attempt at an alliance, a security architecture, a pact, a Muslim NATO, or whatever the flavor of the month is.

That Turkiye is involved is all you need to know. The only thing they do about Israel is bark but never bite. I don't expect it to go anywhere.

okay lol .

 

[Lulldapull]

Well for now it has caused orange to manage the fallout.
Pulling a fast one on Iran... while dealing the terms on the table... he's simultaneously going bilateral with third parties to play catch.
Arm twisting Oman to get another route going simultaneously where he wants to make buck. Having zion do a parallel deal with Lebanon to deal with Hezbollah. One major reshuffle is going on in the region. Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are being primed for destabilization. This all doesn't bode well for the whole region including gulf that now are playing with fire that will burn the whole thing to ashes. Zion could care less... they want perpetual war and THEY WANT DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF THE WHOLE REGION. Fixated on their own project the only thing that can worry them is something that ends their joy ride.

Irans holding back from intervention in Syria now due to a hostile population.

The Syrian population is AL-Qaeda/ Daesh affiliated CIA/ mossad Muzz-Lim and its not favorable to Iran at all.

AL-Turkiya mongol is their guarantor, so they stay AL-Qaeda Muzz-Lim CIA jihadi and keep Iran out and prevent Iran from helping Hamas/ PIJ/ PFLP and Hezb.

 

[Magi]

There's no real path for an Iranian military victory unless the US decides to launch a land invasion and videos of FPVs hitting US teenagers begin to be posted on the internet. The US navy can just sit in the Indian ocean forever; Iran had and has no answer to the naval blockade. Hitting PGCC oil facilities turned out to not matter because the investors and markets cared more about Trump's tweets than drones hitting tankers. The jews don't care if their semitic arab cousins get bombed anyways. The path to a nuke has been destroyed in the short term so can't really break out either.

I believe a military victory is possible for Iran. Iran can use overt and covert force to shape things to its needs. It is likely to outlast all opponents in the region in a hot war or fire at will scenario. UAE gets uppity? Hit them. Hit them hard. Enable the PMF to take over Iraq. Support Bahraini and Shia of the oil regions of Saudi with arms and training. Have all the Emirs crawl on their knees to Tehran to kiss the ring and literally submit. This includes mr. bone saw.

US is not keen on maintaining the naval blockade. Otherwise the blockade would never have been lifted. Not only did they lift it, they reportedly purchased Iranian oil. They need oil volumes flowing out. They need to rebuild their reserves. Iran can easily throttle it. Market manipulation won't work once they begin to run short of physical oil. A naval blockade by the US is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

But Iranian political elites (at least the Zarif Rouhani group) would rather submit by offering heavy concessions similar to what they offered leading up to February 28. Araghchi's right hand man just suggested offering oil and gas concessions to the US if you can believe it. If Khamenei shuffles the judiciary branch, it can cut the reformists to size and allow a proper conclusion to this.

At the same time the stakes are too high for the empire to just give up, as the petro dollar and GCC investment of oil revenues in the west underpin the current world order that began with the Portuguese colonization 500 years ago.

Edit. Controlling the entirety of the energy reserves of the region can catapult Iran to the same level as the US or China. Imagine a Petro Rial. Petro Dollar or Petro Yuan are not the only options.