Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

BigMela2onin said:
American voted for Trump twice. Why did they do that if they disapprove of his policies?
When trump murdered Soleimani in his first term, Americans responded by making memes about being drafted into ww3 because their only concern is how they are personally affected.
I doubt even 1% of voting age adults have ever attended a political protest. I don't see the 99% get a pass.
They aren't against the war, or bombing hospitals, or killing children. They are against high gas and grocery prices only.

Regardless, yours and my tax dollars pay for the bombs that are used to kill them. We also reap the benefits of the killing and looting of these countries. 99% of americans would prefer this continue so they can keep getting next day amazon deliveries than stop it.
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Actually in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than 3 million people. It was the electoral college that decided the election.

Secondly keep on ranting about hating America it's fine it's the same spiel over and over again

Kamala Harris was a lousy candidate to boot

Trump won this time with the popular vote but there wasn't nearly as much as a gap as there was in 2016

Please tell me you're not foolish enough to believe every single American voted for Donald Trump. Far from it
 
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Oracle said:
If war starts this week
It will be all because of Iran actions not Israel this time.

Iran didn't hit Israel, it started attacking civil ships of neighbouring countries.
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They could navigate just by the Middle of the Straits like was before. But no. They fooled iranians and burnt MOU. Go to hell with them!!!
 
KAL-EL said:
Actually in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than 3 million people. It was the electoral college that decided the election.
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62 mil voted for him in 2016 and 77 mil in 2024. So he did such a good job for Americans the first time he gained 15 mil votes. Won the popular vote the second time.
KAL-EL said:
Secondly keep on renting about hating America it's fine it's the same spiel over and over again here. I've gotten used to it
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Pleading no contest I see.
 
KAL-EL said:
Actually in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than 3 million people. It was the electoral college that decided the election.

Secondly keep on ranting about hating America it's fine it's the same spiel over and over again

Kamala Harris was a lousy candidate to boot

Trump won this time with the popular vote but there wasn't nearly as much as a gap as there was in 2016

Please tell me you're not foolish enough to believe every single American voted for Donald Trump. Far from it
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There's an US perspective thread if you're not happy with people ranting about hating America
 
Oracle said:
If war starts this week
It will be all because of Iran actions not Israel this time.

Iran didn't hit Israel, it started attacking civil ships of neighbouring countries.
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The war started because the Jews hoodwinked the dopey Americans to start a conflict with long term economic consequences


Let's be clear, sanctions will gradually strangle Iran and that's the point of sanctions

Iran now has a way of pushing back

Iran as a free and independent state can now tell everyone to back the **** up
Iran's security, it's missile program, it's nuclear program etc are a inherent right of a free state

Iran has also incurred hundreds of billions of infrastructure damage,,
That needs to be paid back, that money will be taken via tolls on the Hormuz

ALL SHIPS MUST NOW COMPLY and pay the toll


You cannot blame Iran for a war imposed on it by the Jews and the west
You cannot blame Iran for not accepting sanctions and the status quo without pushing back


Their is massive economic fallout happening
(Those who understand, know)
The U.S now needs the Hormuz open, the oil flowing and fertilizer flowing

But the U.S doesn't want to remove sanctions on Iran, so Iran shouldn't take their foot off the Hormuz
 
tsunset said:
There's an US perspective thread if you're not happy with people ranting about hating America
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People are free to rant and rave here as much as they want. Your opinion is no better or worse than mine. Have at it and May the force be with you
 
krash said:
What net interest is that? To what extent can Iran exact this grind, the point where the cons of the closure will outweigh those of a more direct engagement for the US?

The deterrence had been achieved until Iran shot at those non-military boats. You can't blame this one on the US. I don't believe Iran can gain enough deterrence any time soon to enjoy impunity when attacking commercial ships in Omani waters.



They were historic events. One party happened to be Muslim, making it a perfectly reasonable counter-argument to the childishly concocted, actual religious claim made by that member that "a true Muslim never retreats". A claim that Iran would do well to ignore. That post is still up there.
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I already apologised but you are welcome to continue to throw your toys out of the pram and argue with the wall.
 
BigMela2onin said:
62 mil voted for him in 2016 and 77 mil in 2024. So he did such a good job for Americans the first time he gained 15 mil votes. Won the popular vote the second time.

Pleading no contest I see.
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Pleading live and let live Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes in 2016.

A lot more people voted for him in 2024 obviously.

Again, not every American voted for him. Not very kind to paint with a broad brush but feel free to continue if you wish

Full stop
 
KAL-EL said:
First of all upfront I freely admit I'm not completely aware of all of the facts Happening in the straight

But if those ships were traveling in Oman Waters, wasn't it provocative for the Iranians to fire on those ships?
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It appears to be inconsistent with what Iran agreed in the MOU.
 
wangdefa said:
Seeing the news report by the China-Arab Guardian, has the war started again?
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the bastards in the american and israeli regimes want war.......so yes theyre back to war.

I hope the empire sinks under its own dead weight soon. The sooner the better fir the world

Tumulous times ahead
 
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