Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

A ground invasion is definitely a possibility. It makes complete sense, and I was among those who believed the Americans will attempt an invasion.

Many people here are unaware that Iran's oil fields are actually quite concentrated. The sheer size of the country leads some to think that resources are distributed throughout Iran. In reality, Iranian oil fields are primarily located in the Khuzestan Basin, close to the Iraqi border. Even capturing just a portion of these fields would not only cover the expenses of the war for US and Israel but also transform it into a highly paying and profitable endeavor.
Also the reason they are isolating southern part of Iran is to make Iran a land locked country,take all it's strategic advantage that comes with Strait of Hormuz. Depriving Iran of it's oil revenues. Without oil revenues whole country will collapse.
I knew they were just preparing for something big and peace deals were just to buy time but I still can't believe they are that stupid to send their soldiers in a meat grinder. Trump just wants to win mid term elections at any cost and Isreal just want to destroy Iran. So this evil alliance is doing all this. Someone must stop this within US or China and Russia should play their roles. Else this can transform into WW3 with a total collapse of world economy. Iran has just ordered houthis to close bab El mandeb and that means crude oil going to $200 per barrel.
 
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US is going for a prolong slow kill of iranian infrastructure rather than all out attacks at once, they will gradually increaae the destruction one by one. IR has only one option to stop these attacks, going bonkers on Bahrain and Kuwait at once, sending them to stone age.

How? Iran has ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones. One drones probably destroys few buildings, the same with ballistic and cruise missiles. Iran will have to fire 10,000s to cause some big damage. The Usa Israel claim to have bombed 16000+ targets in Iran but Iran still stands. If Iran had the means to retaliate in a powerful way they would have already done so, Usa Israel are waging war upon iran, destroying Iranian military, economy, killing people, killed all readership.
 
How? Iran has ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones. One drones probably destroys few buildings, the same with ballistic and cruise missiles. Iran will have to fire 10,000s to cause some big damage. The Usa Israel claim to have bombed 16000+ targets in Iran but Iran still stands. If Iran had the means to retaliate in a powerful way they would have already done so, Usa Israel are waging war upon iran, destroying Iranian military, economy, killing people, killed all readership.
Tehran, the city alone, absorbed over 8,000 US and Israeli strikes and nothing has happened in Tehran.
People really greatly overestimate and exaggerate the destruction caused by missiles.
 
Media, podcasters and bot campaigns are running with "Ground invasion" storyline to close out the week and when you couple that with Trump's address, it's getting people over-excited. I think it's all bluffing and pressuring to get Iran to return to the negotiating table.

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Looks like they are isolating southern Iran from the rest of the country. And destroying bridges means restricting the mobility of Iranian troops. But still it's hard to believe they are ready to take on massive losses by ground invasion. @ShapurII bro now I can understand your fears but still my personal judgement is there won't be any boots on ground.


There could also be a ground invasion coming from the border Iran has with Northern Iraq (Kurdistan). So while bombing is on the south, Mossad agents could be invading from the North West.
 
There could also be a ground invasion coming from the border Iran has with Northern Iraq (Kurdistan). So while bombing is on the south, Mossad agents could be invading from the North West.
Also, the Baloch separatists in south-east of Iran. They have been hitting Iranshahr pretty strongly in the last 72 hours. Iranshahr hosts Brigade 388 in the Sistan and Baluchistan province.
 
We got rid of Iran's first president, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, after that weak betrayer lost Khorramshahr to Iraq baath regime. BTW we later took back it by Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa.


We will also get rid of the pezeshkian government and the Speaker of Parliament.

People are extremely angry with these individuals and with the Reformist Party, whether they are in Parliament or in the government.
 
Imam putin got horribly exposed in Ukraine with his junk military. China is in a far worse situation on that count vs the US in the far east. And the Chinese know it too. Thats why even a pip squeak don't come out of their mouths.
Your mistaken about the Chinese and why should China intervene, even if a new Iranian government comes to power, they will not be anti Chinese and Chinese interests will be protected, the same way China trades with Iraq even after new government and military came to power. China also doesn't have any treaty with Iran.

Iran needs to change its international policy, play politics games rather than direct confrontation, slowly get themselves out from this mess and build a powerful economy and military.
 
We got rid of Iran's first president, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, after that weak betrayal lost Khorramshahr to Iraq baath regime. BTW we later took back it by Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa.


We will also get rid of the pezeshkian government and the Speaker of Parliament.

People are extremely angry with these individuals and with the Reformist Party, whether they are in Parliament or in the government.
Khomeini was different. He had balls.
Remember I told you that Khamenei had to annul Pezeshkiyan's presidency? Pezeshkiyan and his team are quite dangerous.
 
There could also be a ground invasion coming from the border Iran has with Northern Iraq (Kurdistan). So while bombing is on the south, Mossad agents could be invading from the North West.

The problem Iran has now is it doesn’t know where the real attack will come from. From the south, or the north via Iraq or even both. Hence the lethargy in responding to the attacks. Iran needs to preserve military resources for the real battle for when it starts.
 
When we say China is a purely business nation I find this almost very sad for the Chinese as if they are not fully human the same way the rest of us are.... They just live and breathe for business



The Chinese look at the world from a historical and civilizational perspective which gives them an attitude to the non Chinese world.


This has been an attitude that has served the continuity of the Chinese people.


They are outside of the abrahamic Framing of the world, they have insisted on the wisdom of being inward-looking, they made a big wall you know, ethnically they are apart, and an overarching emphasis on internal harmony within and the near abroad...... If you take all of this into account you would change your expectation on the Chinese because they have a different instinct altogether and it's not always business, they just happen to be quite diligent and hard working
 
Sadly, for us, we wear our hearts on our sleeves.

LOL. That is nothing Sir. I recall when I was repeatedly taunted and ridiculed for keeping my "wait and see" attitude, right up to and including the Admin of PDF itself, simply because of that attitude. Everyone was giddy with claims of victory and hundreds of billions flowing in. What happened?

Well, now my phrase has been trademarked by the Meme Lord himself, and look at how popular it is getting, for example "The Legend" himself:


I advise all brothers here to not get emotional and wait for the response to see what will happen

How the "turn tables"! :LOL.


Seriously though, even now I will agree with the "wait and see" approach. Wars are always unpredictable by their very nature. Much can, and will change for both sides even now.

What is 100% sure is that both sides will end up negotiating. Just how much punishment each side wishes to absorb before it sits down with the other is what remains to be seen.

As always, I will wait and see. :D
 
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Chinese are smart people; you will never see them opening their mouths unnecessarily. Dealt with a lot of Chinese... Cold and calculated, unlike us Pakistanis and Iranian brothers. Sadly, for us, we wear our hearts on our sleeves.
When Trump threatened to invade North Korea during his first term, the western media were claiming Usa aircraft carriers are moving towards North Korea, China stayed quiet only at the end made one statement "we will defend North Korea" and suddenly all the hype died down, now Trump claims he is friends with North Korea leader. China has its own policy, if their interests are protected then why must they defend those with no defence treaty.
 
We got rid of Iran's first president, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, after that weak betrayal lost Khorramshahr to Iraq baath regime. BTW we later took back it by Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa.


We will also get rid of the pezeshkian government and the Speaker of Parliament.

People are extremely angry with these individuals and with the Reformist Party, whether they are in Parliament or in the government.

These idiots cannot negotiate.

They accepted the ceasefire when oil was at $120 and U.S. economy looked like it was going to weaken. They believed that Trump had agreed to their “12 point” agreement.

Turned out 12 point agreements were never agreed too and both sides had their own agreement.

Then they came up with the MoU and believed the U.S. when they said they would let Iran manage Hormuz. Instead on Day 1 U.S. opened a lane in Oman and forced all ships to follow to go thru that lane thus rendering the Iranian lane redundant and worthless.

Now the idiots (Argachi, Qalibaf) want a 3RD chance to agree to another agreement that the U.S. won’t follow.

Either Iran goes for the nuke or it will end up being lied to. They made their redline Hormuz and now any backing off it would put Iran in a weaker position then if they just kept their mouth shut!
 
Here is a bit more realistic take about the 3 islands that sit in the middle of the Strait and enable Iran to exert control. That is all this war has boiled down to now, who controls the Strait. Forget about the orginal objectives of regime change, nuke program blah blah.

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I respect Mr. Parsi a lot and I always pay attention to his remarks, but what I was referring to isn't something that's going to occur tomorrow or next week.

The US doesn't go in all at once. They have learned their lessons from Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. Instead, they take small, calculated steps in executing their strategy for Iran. When I mention the US taking control of Iranian oil fields, it doesn't imply that American forces will physically seize the area by next Saturday. It simply indicates that they will eventually gain control over the wells, the flow of oil, the wealth, and the markets.

They might begin with one of the Iranian islands they consider strategic to capture and manage the Strait of Hormuz. After that, they could propose a phony ceasefire, a memorandum of understanding, or a multinational agreement to halt the conflict and observe how the Iranian leadership responds, while continuously adjusting their approach. There could also be internal strife in Tehran afterward, meaning a "civil war" in the higher echelons of Iranian decision-making circles.

Or, equally possible, intensified military actions by the IRGC, but the ultimate US aim is to seize Iranian wealth. Attack, block, cease, capture.

Trump explicitly stated that all Iranian wealth belongs to them - and I believe that his comment about Iranian civilization wasn't just a slip of the tongue either but a revelation of his true intentions.

In fact, he made the same statemens for months now:

“With a little more time, we can easily OPEN THE HORMUZ STRAIT, TAKE THE OIL, & MAKE A FORTUNE,” the US president wrote in a social media post on Friday.

What causes you to doubt your enemy when he explicitly reveals his intentions towards you?

Dismantling the Iranian union and state will naturally lead to control over Iranian resources; they will undoubtedly try to undermine Iran's unity. It would be foolish of them not to attempt this. The potential rewards are too tempting, and the return on investment is too high.

After a certain stage in the escalation/war events, even complete capitulation will not rescue our neighbors. I believe that the majority of Iranians recognize this danger, which is why even pro-IRI groups are beginning to oppose the existing leadership. They are too passive.

You all keep up with the ongoing battle daily but seem to overlook the larger picture.
 

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