Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[ShapurII]

And they want Iran to turn over their uranium and halt any enrichment for good?

Trump also transferred "confidential nuclear documents" to Saudi Arabia during his first term. They are literally helping Saudi Arabia acquire nuclear weapons.

 

[Meengla]

It's just a classic game of good cop, bad cop—nothing more.
Whether you follow the "good cop" or the "bad cop," you're still following an American serving in the same US administration.

It doesn't appear like you follow the American administrations enough? A sitting VPOTUS targeting Israel three times by name in a 2 minute video (as Vance did in the Joe Rogan clip on X) is unprecedent. Vance can do so because of his own ideology and because, unlike others, Trump can't fire him. Generally a VP quietly follows their President to show 'unity' but behind the scene, they can and often disagree strongly. Vance would gain nothing except being a target of the Israel Firsters in America--which he has become now. And even the 2028 election calculations are too early to factor in a country where the attention span is in nano seconds.

 

[hussain0216]

What it can do that patriot and thaad couldn't do ... !?

Get Turkey F35s

 

[Optical216]

Trump also transferred "confidential nuclear documents" to Saudi Arabia during his first term. They are literally helping Saudi Arabia acquire nuclear weapons.

Saudi arabia can easily acquire a nuclear weapon if they wanted. its rumored they financed pakistan's nukes and can order one anytime they want or something like that.

 

[Flotilla]

And they want Iran to turn over their uranium and halt any enrichment for good?

This latest incident is yet another indication that the US is groping in the dark and has no idea how to stop Iran.

 

[SolarWarden]

What? So Orangeman is boss of jews?

 

[Optical216]

Almost feels like he is mocking his own dead soldiers

 

[Immortals]

What? So Orangeman is boss of jews?

It’s channel 13 news, no one talks them seriously, even in Israel.

 

[RzA]

Almost feels like he is mocking his own dead soldiers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Shags101]

Bro, are there any local dead donkeys as part of collateral loss?

Well if there are any dead Jordanians we can bet they will keep a tight lip on it

 

[Hayabusa]

Good to see some US soldiers liquidated and the consequences of their actions creeping up now.

Unfortunately, the only other way I can see the US backing off from Iran is if the war becomes so unpopular back home that the political cost outweighs the perceived benefits. Usually, public opinion shifts when American soldiers starts coming home in large numbers, which will put immense pressure on Trump to reconsider their course.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Falcon29]

Good to see some US soldiers liquidated and the consequences of their actions creeping up now.

Unfortunately, the only other way I can see the US backing off from Iran is if the war becomes so unpopular back home that the political cost outweighs the perceived benefits. Usually, public opinion shifts when American soldiers starts coming home in large numbers, which will put immense pressure on Trump to reconsider their course.

It won't become unpopular over a few deaths of servicemen. Everyone is out for themselves in the US. Pressure on gas prices isn't enough to cause people to lose it and get out in the streets.

Iran's leverage is :

1.) enriched uranium ( not doing anything with it so far but keeping it is leverage )

2.) closing Strait of Hormuz (main card it's playing to get it's terms)

3) targeting critical infrastructure in Gulf Arab states (unable to prove this capability against Israel )

Iran mainly playing on cards 1 and 2 and demanding to be able to charge fees over Strait of Hormuz which US won't accept. US wants unconditional ceasefire, back to status quo kind. Iran is trying to seize opportunity while war is raging to gain some strategic benefit.

 

[ShapurII]

Saudi arabia can easily acquire a nuclear weapon if they wanted. its rumored they financed pakistan's nukes and can order one anytime they want or something like that.

This sort of nonsense is peddled by people who do not understand how nuclear deterrence works. Nuclear deterrence is not a binary situation.