Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

What your saying is hurtful but facts. Iranian leadership needs to make changes and make sure this doesn't happen again, killing of senior generals, attacking the president is declaration of war.

interesting that Khamenei refused to declare a state of war, even though the entire IRGC military command was killed and the entire Supreme National Security Council was attacked during a meeting in a bunker in north Tehran (thankfully no one was killed there), and millions of Iranians had fled Tehran

 

[PakAl]

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Either Lebanon/Syria or Iran, though, I think Hezbollah is their next target.

They will finish Hizbollah arsenal, Israel will not accept any resistance movement in the middleeast, even if they sign peace deals since Israel plans 50 years ahead. Syria is already finished, it will become like Iraq, under the thumb. Iran is a major target, possibly waiting for the right time.

 

[PakAl]

As i always hammered here: Israel doesn't want regime change, but total regime collapse with full US involvement, partition of Iran into 12 states, pipelines of free Iranian oil and gas directly to Israel and Europe to finance their next wars (probably Egypt or Turkey or Pakistan)

Israel is not able to accomplish this by itself, but has a chance with total US involvement both in air and ground, but even this would be a massive task for them as the recent war told us that Iranians are more united than ever in times of war, and that no riots or uprisings will happen in times of war

When people are hungry after decades of war and economic destruction this is when regime change happens, like in Syria and Iraq, the decades of isolation and extreme sanctions. With Iran it's more difficult since the neighbours do not want a war and China has big investment in Iran, in the 12 days war Israel could have easily targeted oil and gas fields but chose not to, Netanyahu mentioned this aswell, he said we will target economic interests if Iran harms us greatly ie targets Israel economy and nuclear facilities.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[PakAl]

you are literally sharing Israeli justification for a war with iran all of this is mossad propaganda , think for yourself why would anyone hype up their enemy unless it is by design

Israelis are selling it to the western world that Iran is rebuilding and will harm Israel, similarly how Saddam was supposed to be building WMD within 48 hours. Then media were claiming chemical and nukes were transfered to Syria but since usa got tied down in Iraq all that propaganda died down. All this anti Iran propaganda is to make sure Usa EU do not normalise relations with Iran and consider Iran as a major enemy state.

 

[PakAl]

Iran 'no longer enriching uranium' with all sites under IAEA watch

Iran 'no longer enriching uranium' with all sites under IAEA watch

Iran's foreign minister said Sunday that Tehran has halted uranium enrichment at all sites, offering the government's clearest acknowledgment yet...

www.dailysabah.com

So, that's it?! All the sacrifices down the gutter?! It makes me angry tbh and I'm not even Iranian. What was the point of everything?!

I don't get it aswell, Iran is not building a bomb but makes it out to be that they are somehow secretly building it. I understand they want nuclear energy for peaceful purposes but what benefits does Iran get when they're under extreme sanctions and high possibility of invasion, the sanctions are costing billions annually. Is it worth it? The economic cost, inflation etc.

 

[Hayabusa]

Samsung as well . This explains how certain people over the last three years have been assasinated .

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It seems like the only way is to use a Chinese phone now.

They rather get spied by the Chinese than the West.

 

[Jalz]

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Israel had control over all of Tehran's traffic CCTV cameras

Israel's intelligence penetration was because of security lapses by the IRGC. A country that follows basic security protocols could never get infiltrated to this level.

 

[OldTwilight]

Won't benefit Iran even a bit. There is no point in developing or announcing possession of nuclear weapons.

It will alienate our friends and strengthens the argument of our enemies. Please stop with this nuke nuke comments.

what point of being sanctioned and continue current status quo which it is not in our favor!?

at least with nuclear arsenal our people will know there won't be no major attack against our country and infrastructure which will decrease psychological pressure on people. now our society is under sanctions while is waiting to be attacked. ( worst case scenario possible for a society and economy)

when Tehran was getting bombed no one was to help , even if USA would nuke Tehran no one would do anything to prevent it ...

these game of yours are killing Iran society , but you guys don't have courage to move in either direction.

 

[kastor ville]

Israelis are selling it to the western world that Iran is rebuilding and will harm Israel, similarly how Saddam was supposed to be building WMD within 48 hours. Then media were claiming chemical and nukes were transfered to Syria but since usa got tied down in Iraq all that propaganda died down. All this anti Iran propaganda is to make sure Usa EU do not normalise relations with Iran and consider Iran as a major enemy state.

You're missing one key point, The United States and the Europeans are sick and tired of Israel. So they can spin whatever they want, nobody wants to go to war for Israel, not anymore . Israel has simply overplayed their hand, The victimhood ploy no longer works in Western medias.

 

[OldTwilight]

احتمالا ج.ا به خاطر تهدید روسیه و چین که اگر بمب بسازید ، کمکتون نمی کنیم ، داره اینجوری رفتار می کنه تا اینم بگذره ، ولی همون‌جوری که این سیاست حل نکردن مشکلات باعث به وجود اومدن بحرانهای داخلی شده و کشور رو به ورطه فروپاشی از درون رسوندن ، توی این زمینه هم در نهایت ج.ا شکست می خوره

 

[OldTwilight]

ج.ا هیچ‌ مشکلی رو حل نمی کنه ، و فقط به تعویقشون می اندازه تا تبدیل به بحران بشوند

 

[Arash]

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Israel had control over all of Tehran's traffic CCTV cameras

Take that with a pinch of salt... don't forget they pretended to fully control iranian airspace !

 

[Arash]

Samsung as well . This explains how certain people over the last three years have been assasinated .

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Ban all Korean products from Iran. Countries such as the EUs, Canada, Australia, India, Korea or turkey should not be allowed to sell tech products in Iran.

 

[PakAl]

You're missing one key point, The United States and the Europeans are sick and tired of Israel. So they can spin whatever they want, nobody wants to go to war for Israel, not anymore . Israel has simply overplayed their hand, The victimhood ploy no longer works in Western medias.

Not sure about that. Israel is the military outpost of the Usa, loosing Israel is loosing power in the middleeast, they will defend it. But to go for a long war will be difficult at the moment. However extreme sanctions, destroying Iranian military and economy will cause civil unrest and the western world believes after so many years the Iranian will themselves want a change. It worked in Syria, after a decades it was all too much. Iran is part of SCO and BRICS, the East needs to take a stance.