Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Bharatah said:
all fake news, three days ago it was the Iranian government that was going to fall, now it's "Trump invades Iran"... there's even a video with AI saying that Trump invaded Iran and Iran surrendered. The Israeli HASBARA has evolved in the area of fake news, and now the lie is being implanted within the public.

There are no soldiers or bases to wage a war against Iran. A war against Iran requires 300,000 to 500,000 soldiers and at least 20 years of conflict(even more so now that Iran has purged itself from within the country and eliminated a lot of infiltrators, spies, puppet opposition members, etc).
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I hate Trump, but he has at times followed on with his words. This broken clock, is predictable and unpredictable.

By the way, you don't need that much soldiers. You don't even need to invade Iran to destroy it. Good ol bombing and inciting protests is enough to overthrow the government. It will then end up a fractured state.
 
Hayabusa said:
I hate Trump, but he has at times followed on with his words. This broken clock, is predictable and unpredictable.

By the way, you don't need that much soldiers. You don't even need to invade Iran to destroy it. Good ol bombing and inciting protests is enough to overthrow the government. It will then end up a fractured state.
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Friend, what you're saying doesn't fit with any known notion of geopolitics and war: since when you don't need soldiers and war to destroy a country ? you do, and today you need it more than ever before.

You're confusing the concept of "color revolution" with "classical war." The "color revolution" phase has already failed in Iran; now they either wage war(like 12 days war) or stage a media stunt involving the assassination of an important person to create a "victory in the media".

Color revolutions doesn't work everywhere, which is why they can't do it in Russia, China, Myanmar, North Korea, etc. This kind of thing works quickly in colonial countries, banana republics, and so on.
 
Starlord said:
This could mean Attack is imminent, we are once again gonna see US plunging into yet another war on behalf of Israel, I mean it starting to feel like that America is under far more brutal occupation than even Gaza is.
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Probably an assassination bombing or some Hollywood bombing of their nuclear facilities like last year. I seriously doubt Trump is going to commit ground forces which will get thousands of Americans killed. He’s all for big showy attacks that involve very little investment and cost no American lives.
 
tower9 said:
Probably an assassination bombing or some Hollywood bombing of their nuclear facilities like last year. I seriously doubt Trump is going to commit ground forces which will get thousands of Americans killed. He’s all for big showy attacks that involve very little investment and cost no American lives.
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He did bomb Iran and I don't think it worked well, plus lets not forget that its not Trump nor America that seeks conflict, its Israel that wants war and a destroyed Iran. They are running the Middle East foreign policy of USA, and no one in US govt on either side (dem/Rep) can dare to question or say no to Netanyahu and his Genocidal plans, makes you wonder how much compromised these American ministers are?
 
Bharatah said:
Friend, what you're saying doesn't fit with any known notion of geopolitics and war: since when you don't need soldiers and war to destroy a country ? you do, and today you need it more than ever before.

You're confusing the concept of "color revolution" with "classical war." The "color revolution" phase has already failed in Iran; now they either wage war(like 12 days war) or stage a media stunt involving the assassination of an important person to create a "victory in the media".

Color revolutions doesn't work everywhere, which is why they can't do it in Russia, China, Myanmar, North Korea, etc. This kind of thing works quickly in colonial countries, banana republics, and so on.
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I disagree. I am not the one confused and I understand clearly what I am saying.

The conclusion here is that a full-scale military invasion is not required to dismantle the Iranian regime. Instead, a strategy of destabilization is sufficient by fracturing the country's government infrastructure and stability, public discontent will naturally lead to internal regime change. The current administration is already facing significant challenges, and if the U.S. were to intervene, it is highly probable that the government would collapse under the pressure. It would then be left with a smaller territory to govern.
 
Starlord said:
He did bomb Iran and I don't think it worked well, plus lets not forget that its not Trump nor America that seeks conflict, its Israel that wants war and a destroyed Iran. They are running the Middle East foreign policy of USA, and no one in US govt on either side (dem/Rep) can dare to question or say no to Netanyahu and his Genocidal plans, makes you wonder how much compromised these American ministers are?
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That’s old news, they are all controlled by zios. But Trump has always shied away from a ground war, he’s not going to do it. He loves big showy moves like assadsinations or high profile bombings or kidnappings. But he’s not going to commit to a ground war.
 
tower9 said:
That’s old news, they are all controlled by zios. But Trump has always shied away from a ground war, he’s not going to do it. He loves big showy moves like assadsinations or high profile bombings or kidnappings. But he’s not going to commit to a ground war.
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Lets hope neither happens, but the issue remains that Netanyahu will keep pushing Americans to fight Iran, its in their nature to have a chaotic world so they can thrive.
 
Starlord said:
Lets hope neither happens, but the issue remains that Netanyahu will keep pushing Americans to fight Iran, its in their nature to have a chaotic world so they can thrive.
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Jews always get what they want
 
Hayabusa said:
I disagree. I am not the one confused and I understand clearly what I am saying.

The conclusion here is that a full-scale military invasion is not required to dismantle the Iranian regime. Instead, a strategy of destabilization is sufficient by fracturing the country's government infrastructure and stability, public discontent will naturally lead to internal regime change. The current administration is already facing significant challenges, and if the U.S. were to intervene, it is highly probable that the government would collapse under the pressure. It would then be left with a smaller territory to govern.
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Again, what you're talking about is a "color revolution" (which is what happened in Nepal), and that phase has already passed in Iran, which has suffered several attempts at color revolutions in the last 40 years. To make matters worse, this time Iran managed to clean up the country, with Mossad and the CIA losing several teams; high-ranking officers inside Iran were captured and killed(Trump assumed in twitter). European embassies are rounded up with diplomats targeted for spying for Israel. Forget about a color revolution there now.

The US doesn't have the infrastructure in place for an open war against Iran, and if they bomb Iran, Iran will respond by bombing Israel and American bases in the Middle East for days...that's what will happen. Not to mention that the aytolls have soldiers in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia (now that it's anti-Israel because Israel recognized Somaliland), Bahrain, etc...

What they can do is a media stunt, where they win in the media with a kidnapping or assassination.
 
No land invasion will occur.

The US will use military means to support the rioters, hoping it will lead to a civil war and fragmentation (divide and conquer). The goal is for Iran to fall from within. The military means will be a mix of psychological, cyber and limited strikes to take out IRGC leadership.

This plan only works if the US thinks Iran’s response will be limited. As a deterrence, Iran will need to strike hard, and push the US into a confrontation, all the while attempting to negotiate with the US, but from a position of strength. If Iran fails to retaliate adequately, it will be left in a weakened position and will be coerced by the US to accept humiliating conditions.
 
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