Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

you are dirt poor and below social welfare check for EU, it is still bad.

I dont say it is good, Iran has been the most sanctioned country. Still combined with the the HDI index, it is not terrible.

 

[mulj]

I dont say it is good, Iran has been the most sanctioned country. Still combined with the the HDI index, it is not terrible.

i would say it is remarkable given in how much mess you are involved and as people have internet they compare and usually conclude wrong as they do not care to the general picture, they just want good and life with certain perspectives, it is something that remains to be solved by you and your compatriots.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Attacking Iranian oil facilities suits their objective. It deprives America's greatest rival China of Iranian oil and places financial pressure on the Iranian government that sanctions cannot. Short of a full blockade and embargo (unlikely).

You may be correct, but only conditionally. If the USA does not want direct regime change and only aims to encourage protests in Iran due to the poor economy, then this approach makes sense. However, based on U.S. history, they have consistently tried to avoid striking oil fields. This is not accidental—oil infrastructure is usually preserved so it can be an immediate strategic and economic asset rather than being destroyed.

 

[PakAl]

As always the Pakistani bros think US is Thor or Iron Man....do you think they ever sit around the table and discuss what iran can do to them? Have you thought about the possibility of the trillions of dollars of oil and gas price shock that they will have to endure just to take out an non-threat state? We are not a threat to the united states.... We are a threat to israel. At some point the US we'll ask itself, is it worth it?

Similarly to how Iranian members get over emotional. I did make it clear Iran will cause big damage to Israel, but I cannot ignore the military realities which face Iran, and also how Usa Israel plan to finish Iranian capabilities to hurt Israel within a few weeks. If they can do that then what means does Iran have to strike Israel?

 

[tsunset]

Looks like Trump backed off, i hope not to be wrong

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Looks like Trump backed off, i hope not to be wrong

Place the Source.

 

[Watandar]

in essence, they should not export their revolution and respect historical boundaries and arab street sentiments.

That's a two way street. Expecting just one party to mind their own business while everyone else meddles in everybody else's business is not feasible.

 

[Watandar]

Looks like Trump backed off, i hope not to be wrong

He hasn't. They need time to move assets into position. Wait for the weekend.

 

[Liquidator]

He hasn't. They need time to move assets into position. Wait for the weekend.

Agreed
He used same tactics last time, saying they are close to a deal just before Israel started the war.

 

[Garcia Sea]

It is clear that an attack is imminent.
Western media are widely spreading the false claim that the Iranian government massacred 12,000 civilians, reporting that invading Iran is the only way to stop the massacre.
The effect of such propaganda diminishes over time as citizens grow weary or realize the truth.
That is why propaganda is deployed immediately before an invasion.
If this continues, Iran will once again be caught completely unprepared for a surprise attack, and its government officials and generals will likely be slaughtered.
Because they foolishly continue to venture out into the streets.

 

[ToddE]

@Emirzad
So, If Kharg is attacked Iran will do nothing?

what are realistic options for retaliation

Going by history of IRGC attacking US bases (2 times), Israel (3 times), Saudi oil facilities (once), couple of other countries in region (4-5 times) with a total of 1400-1500 BMs in last 10 years ... one can make a good guess. This time IRGC has a bigger economic and political motive too as some scholars are saying.

 

[mangekyo]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Trump is being deliberately trapped. His stunt in Venezuela only strengthened Cabello. The oil is owned by Russia and China and they are freely taking it. Not a drop has reached Texan refineries and wont until Trump puts some hundreds and thousands of troops on ground which he cant or wont.

Some cosmetic BS on Iran will turn Iran into a Secular Military Technocracy on Petro economy that will still be pumping oil to China. There is just no end result that suits Trump for now or west in general hence the desperation.

Trump is a bull in a China stop. He breaks things. Don't over think it. By over thinking it, you are giving more credit to intellectual thought to things than he does.

He see's things, and he breaks them. He has done move #1 Venezuela but it is now becoming obvious he does not know what move #2 and #3 are..

He will do the same in Iran.

 

[maverick]

The U.S. is unlikely to strike Iranian oil facilities because destroying them would undermine long-term U.S. interests. The U.S. prefers to retain leverage over Iranian oil resources rather than eliminate them, as control over major oil reserves supports global energy influence and the petrodollar system.

complete opposite of it. US companies will rebuild them and get loyalties from local government for oil sales.. just like in Northern iraq and in southern iraq.

 

[maverick]

Trump is being deliberately trapped. His stunt in Venezuela only strengthened Cabello. The oil is owned by Russia and China and they are freely taking it. Not a drop has reached Texan refineries and wont until Trump puts some hundreds and thousands of troops on ground which he cant or wont.

Some cosmetic BS on Iran will turn Iran into a Secular Military Technocracy on Petro economy that will still be pumping oil to China. There is just no end result that suits Trump for now or west in general hence the desperation.

the only purpose to weaken iranian ballistic missile capability and nuclear program so israel is the defacto regional power... thats abouit it..