Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

First they want to bomb Iran because of nukes. Then missiles. Now only for suppressing a Revolt which is an Internal Issue of Iran? Give them an inch and they take a mile, so Trump needs to go.

Where were the Hypocritical AmeriKKKans in defending the lives of Myanmar Protestors who rebelled against the Myanmar Junta? Why suddenly now Iranian only intervention? Just a pretext to do Zion's bidding.
 
I hope Iran don't let its guard down and prepare in haste, everyday is a blessing and opportunity for them to move equipment and systems in place, you can show strength that can avert any major escalation, any sign of weakness or ill-preparedness will surely be exploited.
 
Starlord said:
I hope Iran don't let its guard down and prepare in haste, everyday is a blessing and opportunity for them to move equipment and systems in place, you can show strength that can avert any major escalation, any sign of weakness or ill-preparedness will surely be exploited.
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Believe me, Things changed after 12 days war, unfortunately we needed the 12 days war to wake up.
 
Seems this uprising backfired. But Mossad lost many moles ....what they think by this action? Now Iran has much more hate against Israel and US. This gives new life to the present Iranian government for a few more decades...and the dream of re establishing of Pahlvi rule is done and dusted.
 
Meengla said:
Iran's ballistic missiles proved too dangerous for Israel and Netanyahu is NOT going to settle for anything less then removing that danger.
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Thats the new problem for Israelis. I get them, they have never ever in their existence as a country faced an enemy that can establish deterrence against them in such hardcore way. As a result of Israeli failure in war, their operational goals kept on changing during the war and in the end not single one was achieved. Half a tonne HEU is still in Iran so what was the war for? IRI is still in power and will sustain even if Khamenei steps down, so there goes the regime change BS. IRGC has three times the budget now to expand the capabilities, Government just sold 100+ billion USD worth oil last year (in Yuan) and has no plan to go slow. What did Israel achieve in the war? they killed some 65 years old politically appointed commanders who got replaced within 17 hours. Ever single target they went for was responded by IRGCASF with same nature of target inside Israel and Israelis never attacked the very same nature of target again which implies deterrence established. I for one was not expecting that from a cripplingly sanctioned military but it happened.

IRI made many political mistakes such as tangling Iran up against Israel and US for no reason at all. But over all it feels the investing hundreds of billions USD in aerospace program has paid off because enemy is recognizing the threat and wants it gone. I am never in favor of Iran fighting with Israel but credit for IRI where its due. Reza Pahlavi in power means nuclear, missile, aerospace capabilities etc all gone and Iran will be allowed to have a harmless or easy to tackle conventional military with new squadrons of imported jets, some tanks, drones etc like Egypt, Turkey, KSA while economy will be massively foriegn debted so even if military goes rogue, the debt can be used to clench the throat of the deep state.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
Senior Iranian official Mohsen Rezaee:

We must be ready for war, and there is also a possibility that he (Trump) might attack…

Both the IRGC… the Commander of the Army… the Minister of Defense… the Law Enforcement Force, and the Basij—are completely ready right now.

They are in the trenches and ready to fire…

They are waiting so that if a shot is fired, this time they will strike back very crushingly.


@Emirzad looks like u were right again. Iran is prepared to go all out thats why Trump called it off .
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Mohsen Rezaee is not a reliable figure. Old principalist politician. I would read him threatening US as conservatives trying to make a return to "nationalistic" wave. What has stopped the war for now are following things:

(A) Pure military POV, US has no sustainable attack assets in the region (CBG) if Persian Gulf Arabs do not allow the bases to be used as launch pads which they have apparently said they wont. US can theoretically use long range strategic bombers but thats one off operation, IRGC will respond on Israel, US bases, war will start with Israel and US will have to intervene repeatedly. Without sustainable attack capability it is not feasible. Reliable most journalistic sources from west are saying that Trump was briefed on this problem. He might go for cosmetic exchange once the assets will be in place as back in case things go south.

(B) Lack of end game: Remove Khamenei, IRGC will coup and now you have 1 million strong military group (with Artesh) in power armed with 3000-4000 S/M/IR-BMs along with thousands of CMs, UCAVS, killer drones etc ... Thats just the unconventional strength. This group right now is apparently running on 30-40 Billion USD budget since Khamenei ordered the defence budget to be three times. When they fought the war with Israel-US on almost equal terms they were on 12 Billion USD budget ... if they hold power, they will have excess to 100-125 Billion USD oil revenues. Reformists (Minus Rohani-Zarif loyalists), Larijani led conservatives all will rally behind them because thats where the cash will be and these are military men, not religious people so right wing and left wing BS wont matter anymore in Iran. To defeat this group + their pet Basij (further 0.3 million), some 4 million foriegn soldiers will be needed inside Iran lol to first finish this group and then install a puppet regime. And stupid folks here thought Reza Pahlavi can be parachuted onto the throne and this entire military setup will somehow "bundle up". If this future regime somehow finds or invents 250-300 Billion USD investment for hydrocarbon sector they will be sitting on 8 trillion USD worth hydrocarbon. There is no single game theory scenario short of mass nuclear attack on Iran that can change this outcome otherwise.

(C) There is a huge Chinese factor which I already mentioned before, 5.5 MBPD flowing from Iran to China can worth upto 125 Billion USD a year in Yuan/RMB which China currently pays Iran in. If Iranian oil is stopped which amounts to 20% roughly of Chinese imports, they will have to pay some 100-150 Billion USD in USD currency to western controlled/owned PGCC sources. This will be provide massive strength to USD that westerners are looking for and will also put Chinese on US controlled oil engine. Will Chinese allow themselves to be defeated this way in currency war that they themselves initiated through BRICS. IRI knows this, this entire IRI-US standoff is about tackling this IRI-PRC-Russian nexus of de-dollarisation. I wont be surprised a bit if in future we get to know that Oman mediated talks between IRI and US included some oil talk. Israeli problem with IRI is limited to nuclear and missile capability. They matter less in this.

(D) Here is a wild prediction, we might see IRI and PGCC countries creating defence pacts or MOUs in future. I predicted this here when KSA was purchasing Iranian UCAVs for Sudan 2 years back. Now these people lobby for IRI in washington. Houthi silence over Saudis attacking UAE points to some deeper level IRI-KSA communication. Before Iranians attack me over this, yes yes KSA provided airspace to Israelis before but do they have a choice ? they are economically and politically too much dependent upon west to even fire a single bullet in direction of Israel but nobody likes to be bullied/humilated the way Israel is behaving with Arabs.
 
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Tariq Habib Afridi said:
Who is she? the tweet says she is an iranian ? and you said she is zionist?
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Anyone who is a supporter of the idea Zionism is a Zionist Biden professed himself to be a Zionist now does that mean Jewish Zionists think they are I doubt it…..but I think he’s just calling her a Zionist as she’s a 💩 head
 
HAIDER said:
Seems this uprising backfired. But Mossad lost many moles ....what they think by this action? Now Iran has much more hate against Israel and US. This gives new life to the present Iranian government for a few more decades...and the dream of re establishing of Pahlvi rule is done and dusted.
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Yeah losing a lot of these sleepers probably have more in stock but it’s not endless it’s taken years to develop these guys and girls not that easy to replace them and Iran will be looking at everyone they arrest who they have come in contact with check electronics and everything in between even out the thousands they have arrested if only a handful have had contact with intelligence agencies it will lead to others let’s not include those who were armed and taken out
 
This is all very bizarre

Maybe they're moving many assets now to pursue regime change after the protests started

And US - Israel will do heavy attacks on Iran

Trump may have asked for options and the options were too escalatory , the military may be requesting more time to prepare

Or it's part of long term pressure to just make situation in Iran worse for months to come, with goal conditions become more dire and intensity of protests increase
 
It's possible Israel initiates a strike before US Carrier arrives which US later joins

Or everybody waits until days after it arrives

Bringing the aircraft carrier is not a precautionary measure if nothing is actually planned

It still means somebody will attack somewhere potentially Israel starts some kind of attack in Gaza and/or Syria

Something that requires US to deploy more assets incase it backfires on Israel
 
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