Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Haz]

If China helps noone, then it will be alone when the West finally comes for it. The attacks on Venezuela and Iran are part of choking off China energy supply and using energy long term as a weapon.

China will offer some strong words of condemnation, and nothing else. Per usual, their words of support to the "global south" have always been hollow, they couldn't care less.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iranian nationalists need to start a online campaign against Khamenei to displace/remove this weak/scared old man from power.

I believe Heroic Kim Jong Un, ruling a tiny resource-less country, is better than khamenei in any sense, even standing closer to God than Khamenei (because he made his country stable and safe and will wipe out oligarchs who threaten the economy).

A national campaign should be started to aquire large amount of nuclear bombs and large amount of ICBMs.

Who is responsible for keeping our missiles below 3000 km reach and not building nuclear weapons? Are they doing the bidding for foreign powers?

They are responsible for Iranian civilians and scientists and military getting killed through mossad created conflicts, direct aggression by Israel and USA, and through foreign imposed sanctions.

Continuous psyops of foreign invasion (because we have no ICBM and nukes) causes huge damage to our economy and scares foreign investors.

The traitors/foreign agents inside Iran know this and actively promote the Israeli-Islamic anti-nationalist "Nuke-is-Haram" narrative and prevent building Nuke-Carrying-ICBMs, to keep Iran in a constant state of insecurity.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Bolded part: If what you say is right, then Iranians will do fine in the long run no matter what they face in the short run, short of nukes dropping on them, which will not drop on them.

That is why they have problems with the Shia themselves and are also seeking regime change. These short conflicts will not bring about any change.

 

[Meengla]

Iranian nationalists need to start a online campaign against Khamenei to displace/remove this weak/scared old man from power.

I believe Heroic Kim Jong Un is better than khamenei in any sense, even standing closer to God than Khamenei (because he made his country stable and safe and will wipe out oligarchs who threaten the economy).

If an octagenarian like Khamenei is really calling the shots then not good.
As for North Korea's Kim: He represents one last truly independent country on Earth! The Juche principle, currently known as I don't GAF! But he is off topic here...

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iranian nationalists need to start a online campaign against Khamenei to displace/remove this weak/scared old man from power.

I believe Heroic Kim Jong Un is better than khamenei in any sense, even standing closer to God than Khamenei (because he made his country stable and safe and will wipe out oligarchs who threaten the economy).

A national campaign should be started to aquire large amount of nuclear bombs and large amount of ICBMs.

Who is responsible for keeping our missiles below 3000 km reach and not building nuclear weapons? Are they doing the bidding for foreign powers?

They are responsible for Iranian civilians and scientists and military getting killed through mossad created conflicts, direct aggression by Israel and USA, and through foreign imposed sanctions.

Continuous psyops of foreign invasion (because we have no ICBM and nukes) causes huge damage to our economy and scares foreign investors.

The traitors/foreign agents inside Iran know this and actively promote the Israeli-Islamic and anti-nationalist "Nuke-is-Haram" narrative and prevent building Nuke-Carrying-ICBMs to keep Iran in a constant state of insecurity.

Following up on this, this deliberate weakning of Iran by internal traitors has emboldened the weakest c-ucks on earth (EU) to place IRGC on terror-list today.

 

[tsunset]

If an octagenarian like Khamenei is really calling the shots then not good.
As for North Korea's Kim: He represents one last truly independent country on Earth! The Juche principle, currently known as I don't GAF! But he is off topic here...

Also the one last country on earth in which its people eat grass for lunch

 

[mulj]

Iranian nationalists need to start a online campaign against Khamenei to displace/remove this weak/scared old man from power.

I believe Heroic Kim Jong Un is better than khamenei in any sense, even standing closer to God than Khamenei (because he made his country stable and safe and will wipe out oligarchs who threaten the economy).

A national campaign should be started to aquire large amount of nuclear bombs and large amount of ICBMs.

Who is responsible for keeping our missiles below 3000 km reach and not building nuclear weapons? Are they doing the bidding for foreign powers?

They are responsible for Iranian civilians and scientists and military getting killed through mossad created conflicts, direct aggression by Israel and USA, and through foreign imposed sanctions.

Continuous psyops of foreign invasion (because we have no ICBM and nukes) causes huge damage to our economy and scares foreign investors.

The traitors/foreign agents inside Iran know this and actively promote the Israeli-Islamic and anti-nationalist "Nuke-is-Haram" narrative and prevent building Nuke-Carrying-ICBMs, to keep Iran in a constant state of insecurity.

Maybe those idiots awaken something bigger then they wanted under immense pressure you will either adapt within framework you are suggesting among other things or you will be crushed.
I reall hope that you will pull out first option and that you as society have enough internal think tanks to make your state management more efficient and robust that anyone who think to mess around with you will think twice.
You as state are framed as villain for to long and to much, enough is enough.
To mention this EU designation and new sanctions, this also can be seen as chance as burning some illusions to the ground can have catharsric effect and move focus on other and more favorable goals which obviously harmony and proper relationships with west is not anymore.

 

[hussain0216]

Following up on this, this deliberate weakning of Iran by internal traitors has emboldened the weakest c-ucks on earth (EU) to place IRGC on terror-list today.

Iran desperately needs reform

Give Iranian of different types the freedom to be themselves and just enforce national law and culture whilst defending Iran's conservatives and religious

The problem is the enemies of Iran are forcing the issue and purposely creating a economic crisis


It's important if Iranians want to remain free that they don't fall for these tricks

Their won't be a rainbow at the other end of protests, it will be chaos and Iranians will suffer more then ever


The agitators and mossad are using protesters as cover to create instability

 

[mangekyo]

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The attacks on Venezuela and Iran are part of choking off China energy supply and using energy long term as a weapon.

China's top crude oil sources (2024-25): Russia, KSA, Iraq, Malaysia, UAE.

 

[VCheng]

Also the one last country on earth in which its people eat grass for lunch

Patriotism can last only so long on empty stomachs.

 

[mulj]

China's top crude oil sources (2024-25): Russia, KSA, Iraq, Malaysia, UAE.

So? All easily choked out except russian one. His initial assumption is correct.

 

[Watandar]

China's top crude oil sources (2024-25): Russia, KSA, Iraq, Malaysia, UAE.

Four of these will quit supplying China tomorrow if the US pushes hard. The Chinese can continue ignoring what's happening and focusing on business but the West is coming for them. The longer West is stuck in Ukraine or Mideast or somewhere else, the safer China is.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

If China helps noone, then it will be alone when the West finally comes for it.

West is coming to China already but not in the way you are saying. Canadian PM visited China a week ago, now UK's PM visiting it. West wants to do business with China.

As far as war is concerned, China obviously will remain neutral in Iran Vs US. But just to make a point, if there's a situation where a country must have to pick a side then China will take the side of the United States.

Reason is obvious.

United States is largest trading partner of China. China-US trade is in excess of half a Trillon dollars Where, trade balance is overwhelmingly in China's favor whooping 400+ billions of dollars in China's favor.

Humanity, rules, personal wishes, nothing works in geopolitics. Only interests.

 

[LX1111]

Oversimplified perspective. Too many generalisations here, especially the highlighted part. I doubt Arabs are particularly "offended" by the pro-Iran stance of anyone else.

It is only really Indians who believe in this reductionist version of realpolitik, whereby for example, if Azerbaijan says something nice about Pakistan then a 5000 year curse must be leveraged on Baku by "supporting" Armenia.

I don't think Beijing follows such crude generalisations. Beijing must certainly do what is in its interests though.

Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore relations

The regional rivals are expected to reopen their embassies within two months after talks in Beijing.

www.aljazeera.com

China has long avoided taking sides between Sunni and Shia Muslims. China has made significant efforts to promote reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and in 2023, China directly facilitated the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries.
China supported Iran at that time because Iran had established a Shia crescent stretching from Xinjiang, China, to the Eastern Mediterranean. China believed that Iran could completely challenge the dominance of the United States and the West in the Middle East, and the Shia crescent was part of the Belt and Road Initiative.
but With Hamas eliminated, Hezbollah severely damaged, and the Assad regime in Syria, into which China had invested countless political resources, collapsing, Iran has lost its significance for China. At this point, supporting Iran would offend everyone, including the Arab world, Israel, Türkiye, and the United States.