Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mehdipersian]

Can you please share article to confirm autenticity?

For second thing it is true, saudi bussines women residing in uae were stupid enough to do that.

There are many Arab names in Epstein's files.

Considering the behavior of Arabs during the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is clear that the relationship is much closer than what has been published so far.

Epstein files show Kaaba cloth pieces from Mecca shipped to him via UAE-linked contacts

Sacred cloth that covers shrine in Saudi Arabia reached the convicted paedophile through UAE-linked businesswoman

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Unfortunately, the Arabs in the region have no will of their own and are completely under the control of America and Israel. The reason for their hostility towards Iran is not due to their national interests:
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that is meaningless really, at least this pic, does not Convey anything.

MBS was not found secretly meeting in public parks, like an English Prince Andrew!

MBS did not need Epstein for his financial services (aka Money Laundering operations)

although, new info. could change all that, but, thats unlikely, given MBS himself is connected with Aramco

 

[mulj]

There are many Arab names in Epstein's files.

Considering the behavior of Arabs during the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is clear that the relationship is much closer than what has been published so far.

Epstein files show Kaaba cloth pieces from Mecca shipped to him via UAE-linked contacts

Sacred cloth that covers shrine in Saudi Arabia reached the convicted paedophile through UAE-linked businesswoman

www.middleeasteye.net

I am aware of that but as far as i am informed MBS is least exposed and even if you read where is he mentioned you can conclude he is actually kind off"good guy", so that is why i asked about picture authenticity for which i remain in position it is fake.

 

[kastor ville]

This is possibly the best offer imaginable for the Islamic Republic, and yet, even this offer is terrible because it does not address the main issue: sanctions relief.

As soon as Iran hands over its stock of HEU, the US will no longer worry about a potential nuclear outbreak and will exert 10x more pressure on Iran even if they decide to honor the agreement, which they won't (like the JCPOA).

If this true, this is not bad..I don't want be a chest pounder...but I did say the smart move is to give trump a win. I also mentioned a moratorium on enrichment for 3-5 years to give him that win... However, i don't think we should ship up the HEU...we can keep it under lock with IAEA supervision. That HEU is ours. And without congressional approval they can break the deal again. As far as BM, we can say we won't use them preemptively.
The smartest thing the iranians can do at this point is not to listen to the supreme leader. He has consistently gotten this equation wrong. It's time to take the remote control away from grandpa.

 

[kastor ville]

Points 1 , 2 & 3 are unacceptable

Ok...How about civil war then? How about a failed state then?

 

[Meengla]

If this true, this is not bad..I don't want be a chest pounder...but I did say the smart move is to give trump a win. I also mentioned a moratorium on enrichment for 3-5 years to give him that win... However, i don't think we should ship up the HEU...we can keep it under lock with IAEA supervision. That HEU is ours. And without congressional approval they can break the deal again. As far as BM, we can say we won't use them preemptively.

Your HEU was a Red Herring for decades. It takes a lot to make credible nuclear weapons; look at what it took Pakistan over the decades with possible Chinese help and probable American connivance.
Iranians should not fall into the trap of the nukes as a threat to anyone. Remember the hype some years ago when it was mentioned that the Iranian nukes would hit European countries? That was another like the Yellow Cake hype of Iraq.
Just concentrate on safeguarding your lethal missile system and give President Trump a face saving way out like he got from the Europeans over Greenland just a few weeks ago. That is, if Netanyahu allows that to happen.

 

[ToddE]

According to published reports, some interesting maneuvering happening inside IRI.

- Araghchi is deployed as "Western Expert" to talk with EU, USA while Larijani being "Eastern handler for Russia, China ... and Israel.

- Pezeshkian personally pulled the plug on Turkey for venue as talks with US. Reason seems like consensus between Reformist Government + Larijani + IRGC that US and IRI should talk at neutral venue, they see Turkey as US/Jew Proxy (heavy debts, strategic moves in favor of Israel). This is contrast to "Islamic brothers" rhetroic from previous such events when Khamenei was in absolute power. Also Kushner was apparently Iranian demand since they see Witkoff having zero power.

- They are willing to talk on 20-60% enriched quantity. Support for Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, PMF etc, Missiles are no go areas for IRI. US wants Missiles limited, <LEU enrichment and support for Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, PMF gone.

- IRI is reading something amusing that US seems to lack the end goal of its own in talks or war because from regime change threats, US has retreated to pure Israeli favoring temporary demands like Missiles, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, enrichment. This suggests that key to descalation with US-Trump is hidden in Larijani's communication with Netanyahu through Putin. Larijani (and his backers) could very well be using this to put IRI into a place where he emerges as next SL. Whoever is pushing him up was the same gang that siphoned off 115 Billion USD worth export money to cause massive inflation all of a sudden so a new power group with connections abroad takes over and Ayatollahs/conservatives/principalists are left with no choice but to hand over the power.

- IRI seems to have ZERO intention of curbing missiles or any military capability because Sat imagery is showing massive infrastructure being developed for IRGC including more underground bases. They have 3 times the budget now.

- Conservatives, Khamenei, Ayatollahs are nowhere in this picture which tells us there is no future for them in IRI.

 

[Eşbah]

- Pezeshkian personally pulled the plug on Turkey for venue as talks with US. Reason seems like consensus between Reformist Government + Larijani + IRGC that US and IRI should talk at neutral venue, they see Turkey as US/Jew Proxy (heavy debts, strategic moves in favor of Israel). This is contrast to "Islamic brothers" rhetroic from previous such events when Khamenei was in absolute power. Also Kushner was apparently Iranian demand since they see Witkoff having zero power.

Can't confirm this and likely wishful thinking on your part. You often leap to conclusions despite the absence of evidence to back your claims.

Among all your neighbors, Turkey likely possesses the most accurate insights regarding Tehran, and political analysts and decision-makers in Ankara are saying the same:

There is a major infighting in Tehran, an internal power struggle, with decision-makers frequently "overruling" each other's "instructions".

People here are overly focused on military technicalities, battlefield strategies and potential unrest in Iran. While all of this unfolds in the Middle East, there is also an ongoing conflict within the IRI. In this regard, you are correct, and I acknowledge that. However, it is by no means as straightforward and "already decided" as you would like to portray here. The outcome remains uncertain.

Do you genuinely believe that Erdogan proposed Iran's oil, gas, and mineral resources to the US on a whim without prior consultation with Tehran? Or do you think the Turkish government would arrange a meeting between Washington and Tehran in Istanbul without receiving approval from Tehran?

Based on my understanding of the Iranian dynamics from Turkish sources, it appears there is quite a chaotic, if not nearly frantic, exchange of contradicting statements and decisions coming from Tehran.

This should worry us, not make us happy. I don't understand your optimism.

 

[vizier]

There are reports that ea37b ew aircraft is transferred to a usa mideast base.
It is a multiband long range jammer with some sigint capability. Possibly P8 sigint aircraft sniffs the radio signals and locates them and then Ea37b will then actively jam those locations with a parallel kinetic attack launched at those locations.

Sigint takes time with correlation of satellite pictutures with radio signals to determine the exact location of assets for a kinetic attack by cruise missiles and directional jamming. Keeping the radars at the same place for more than an hour is a death sentence for the radars. Russian doctrine of stronger static radars to burn through jamming and stronger active defense has its limitations that was shown many times in previous conflicts. Radars will be both attacked from very long ranges by ew and kinetically after their locations are triangulated. But if the playbook is changed then everything changes. If the doctrine is adapted by changing radar locations very rapidly non-stop both directional jamming and kinetic attack effectiveness would be reduced considerably. That is why still today Ukranian radars are still not destroyed significantly by Russian airforce.

Another option is locating jammer planes by passive sensors. Several sensors using time difference of arrival can locate the rf source. It has been several decades now when initial models like Kulchuga and Vera came into scene. Many countries should have developed their own variants now including Iran. Especially broadcast jamming signals can be located that way so the plane is located in real time. Unlike fuel tanker planes the jammer plane needs to fly at higher altitudes to do its job so it is continiously at line of sight of ground radars and ground passive sensors.

Passive sensors like kulchuga may not be enough to develop a direct attack solution but it is enough to develop a man in the loop attack solution by drones or aircraft. It is a slow target and its rough position can be estimated. The detection-location probability will also be higher if passive sensor is located closer to a ground radar that is being jammed by ew aircraft. If jammer is closed then radars can continue tracking and feed location data of the plane.

It is claimed that Ukraine was able to shoot down Russian A50 by a modified S200 but it happened at a much closer range than these ew aircraft usually operate from. A long range attack solution that comes to my mind is Shaheed 238 can be mounted with manpad and send to those rough radio source coordinates in numbers. Communication can be jammed when target is close but software can trigger the manpad by itself without needing the comm-link when it gets an infrared lock.

 

[Persian Gulf]

brother u posted ai pics of israeli soldiers with iranian women in tehran with israeli flags all over , tf do u think was going to happen to u

yes he conveniently omitted that fact

 

[Persian Gulf]

OK. Thanks for sharing your prediction with us.

Here's mine:
1. Without lifting sanctions, there will be riots one after another every now and then. Back in 2009, minimum salary in Iran was about $370 per month. Now it has plummeted to $87 per month. People can barely afford basic living necessities like food. In the last 8 years, on average, we have had new protests every 2 years. And each time, it got more violent than the last time and people chanted more slogans against the system.

2. People will start to go for armed rebellions. Ethnic groups in Iran like Lurs and Arabs are already armed. Kurds and Baluch people have trained separatist groups with the backing of NATO. Since the 12 day war, the Israelis and the Americans have realized that the best way to deal with Iran is internally. Why should they stop trying that when it worked for them last time?

3. The newer generations of Iranians, particularly born after 1985, are quite Westernized. As the West continues to isolate Iran and disconnects Iran from the world, more internal pressure will build up to overthrow the regime, in addition to economic hardship that the regime seems unable to resolve.

Bottom line is that in the next 3 years, Iran will either go through a bloody revolution (civil war) or foreign intervention, or maybe both.

all reasonable possibilities

we all agree Iran needs economic relief. the West's economic war has largely worked, helped by IRI's incompetence and corruption

 

[Kyussis]

Maybe he does, but he can't process what is happening because he is too focused on begging Trump to give him a deal.

After all, from Entegham-e Sakht and threats of assassinating Trump and destroying his assets around the world, he has reached to the point that he is directly negotiating with Trump's most Zionist figures (Jared Koshner and Witkoff).

Timeline of the Ayatollahs and Trump:
1. Entegham-e Sakht: We will kill Trump because he assassinated Gen. Soleimani. 2024: We never said we would kill him.
2. We will never negotiate with the US: Later was changed to we will never negotiate with this administration at least. They ended up negotiating with the US and this administration and even offered them oil deals before the June attack.
3. No to negotiations, no to war: The US launched an attack on Iran through Israel, the Ayatollahs are still begging Trump for diplomacy.

Humiliation after humiliation. It is understandable that you have too much suppressed anger after getting bitch-slapped right and left every year.

1. Show me where Khamenei threatened to "Kill trump".

2. Idiots like you think that Khamenei is a dictator and that the President and his government are only there for show. It was Pezeshkian and his foreign minister who keep begging for "negotiations".

3. With the experience of June 2025 behind them yet the rubber necked reformists only know to beg for "negotiations" and people like you only know to divert any criticism of the elected government at the foot of Ali Khamenei.

The only Humiliation I suffer is knowing that I have idiots like your self as my "hamvatan".

 

[tsunset]

The majority of the 3019 deaths during the riots were terrorists using mass destruction weapons (flamethrowers, combat shotguns etc) to kill everything that moves, innocent people passing by and rookie security forces that were unarmed and defenseless, they got burned alive, dismembered, beheaded, lynched, shot at. Those are factual facts.

Anything else is pedophile big nose propaganda

 

[جوبا]

Right.
As I said some days ago in this thread, the Iranian nukes are a 'red herring', a distraction, not dissimilar to Saddam's Yellow Cakes.
How nukes are made, how they are turned into credible threat, one needs to look into Pakistan's nuclear weapons program which started in early 1972 and how long for Pakistan to materialize with even some tacit approval of the Americans and probably some help from the Chinese.
Iran, if it ever had the nuclear weapons option, doesn't have it anymore, and will not have it into the foreseeable future. It is a waste of mental and digital bandwidth to talk about Iran's nuclear option ATM.

Any nonwestern non propaganda source I can read to gauge the exact state of the program?

 

[جوبا]

Unfortunately, it's real.
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The Saudis and Emirates even gifted Epstein a piece of the Kaaba curtain, which he used as a rug.

an emirati businesswoman gifted a piece which arrived after he was already in jail. The pieces are as big as a smartphone, cant be used as a rug.
please do not malign the Kiswa for some petty geopolitical rivalry