Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

What little Iran does export these days (under 2M barrels per day) goes to China via Malaysia and other intermediaries.

So confiscating Iranian oil tankers is a direct impact on China. Trump doesn’t want to open that can of worms right now. But he may change course in a few weeks if Iran doesn’t strike a deal.

I see China going to war on USA and attacking Taiwan if they restrict oil supplies to China.

Prepare to celebrate seeing 3 USN Aircraft Carriers obliterated and its sailors be exterminated by Hypersonics for making such a stupid pre-war move against China.

 

[Tamerlane]

no, they gifted a small model of the J-20

If Iran goes down the whole Middle East with its oil resources will be in Israeli-US control. They’ve already taken control of Venezuela. China will be at the mercy of Netanyahu, who will show no mercy to China.

If China doesn’t step in at this point then their dreams of being a great power will be gone.

 

[Tamerlane]

Let’s do a rough calculation of the potential bonanza for US-Israel in case of a war.

With all the Middle East in US-IsraelI control after a devastating war, let’s say the price of oil goes to $200/barrel. It will become profitable for US companies to invest heavily in Venezuela while at the moment it is unprofitable at the current price of $69. The biggest deposits in the world will be at US disposal. They will also control the Middle Eastern oil.

China imported 4.2 billion barrels of oil in 2025 costing them $290 billion. With the price at $200/barrel their import bill will triple to $870 billion. That will be an extra cost of $580 billion per year or almost $6 trillion in 10 years.

All those extra trillions of dollars worth of oil will be sold in US dollars, which will stabilize the US dollar. The puppet regimes will be forced to invest those petrodollars in buying US bonds at very low interest rates. That will lower US interest payments and reduce the budget deficit. Trillions will be spent by the puppets to rebuild their countries for which contracts will go to US-IsraelI companies.

There’s a lot of money to be made by the ‘Epstein Class’ from a war on Iran. Unless, the potential victims step in a try to save themselves. Everyone in the world is a potential victim because all those trillions of dollars are going to be extracted from the whole world, including US citizens in the form of high energy prices.

 

[925boy]

Looks like Netanyahu is no longer seeking regime change.

Yet would still like a joint US-Israeli or just Israeli strike on Iran's missiles and drones.

Iran has to treat any upcoming attack as a red line, such as regime change op, in order to deter future attacks.

I agree.

If it shows any willingness to heavily calibrate responses and agree to 'quiet for quiet ' ceasefire , then the US and Israel will come back during summer 2026 for more.

US and Israel will not stop this new round of attacks on Iran IF they start it, period!

 

[Shags101]

I agree.

US and Israel will not stop this new round of attacks on Iran IF they start it, period!

No I think trump thinks this will be a another victory lap a quick but loud theatrics to make him look tough and bad but it will be up to the Iranians to either decide to go down that road because I totally agree if it starts it’s not going to end quickly if at all

 

[StrategicBear]

No I think trump thinks this will be a another victory lap a quick but loud theatrics to make him look tough and bad but it will be up to the Iranians to either decide to go down that road because I totally agree if it starts it’s not going to end quickly if at all

You underestimate him and Israel. He will definitely perform a very unprecedented Ultra-Massive Shock and Awe Regime Change Op from the very beginning like SolarWarden here predicted, so Iran should do as they have already said and respond with Total War to level Tel Aviv and sink multiple USN carriers if this starts.

Based from all the available deployments and seriousness of the situation, oe can logically assume this is the Big War that Netanyahu dreams of.

Trump's deployments this time is not theatrics but real threats to Iran's government which is why Iran must respond with a full war to deter salami-slicing tactics by them.

 

[kastor ville]

some form of deterrence (for now)

Lol...told you!
Yep....only way to fight a superpower

 

[kastor ville]

this loser has more intelligence than every Zionist monarchist in the diaspora

He's a real weird dude....very, very smart for his age, and the fker has photographic memory. But he's also a white Christian nationalist.
That kind of thinking is short term....The future of this planet won't be based on racial or religious divide....all of those walls will eventually crumble. With AI and metaverse things such as borders, race, religious affiliation won't mean much...it will all be about money and return on investment. If not, we're doomed as an species.

 

[mulj]

Let’s do a rough calculation of the potential bonanza for US-Israel in case of a war.

With all the Middle East in US-IsraelI control after a devastating war, let’s say the price of oil goes to $200/barrel. It will become profitable for US companies to invest heavily in Venezuela while at the moment it is unprofitable at the current price of $69. The biggest deposits in the world will be at US disposal. They will also control the Middle Eastern oil.

China imported 4.2 billion barrels of oil in 2025 costing them $290 billion. With the price at $200/barrel their import bill will triple to $870 billion. That will be an extra cost of $580 billion per year or almost $6 trillion in 10 years.

All those extra trillions of dollars worth of oil will be sold in US dollars, which will stabilize the US dollar. The puppet regimes will be forced to invest those petrodollars in buying US bonds at very low interest rates. That will lower US interest payments and reduce the budget deficit. Trillions will be spent by the puppets to rebuild their countries for which contracts will go to US-IsraelI companies.

There’s a lot of money to be made by the ‘Epstein Class’ from a war on Iran. Unless, the potential victims step in a try to save themselves. Everyone in the world is a potential victim because all those trillions of dollars are going to be extracted from the whole world, including US citizens in the form of high energy prices.

Good observation, that is why China passivity is even more puzzling, Iran is not just exporter of it, it is most important factor for energy policy out of the USA grip and petro dollar blackmail infrastructure.

 

[OldTwilight]

USA puts herself in the corner , if she start war and take damage and can't achieve it's goal in limited time window , it's military hegemony will weaken against both Russia and China...

If the war continue more than a week ( which is more likely to happen ), USA will target civilian infrastructures to at least show force and scare others to not disobey her ...

IR won't care about Iranian people and will fight to bitter end .

If this war continue for a month , The real victor will be China and Russia...

The ultimate loser will be Iranians .


That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

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I didn't want war with USA and I didn't want to Iran be sacrificed for sake of China and Russia , so I wanted nukes to Iran to be able have normal relationship with the west .

but even in this site the agent of Russia and china were firmly against Iran getting nukes and we're push some lunatic in Iran toward war with usa to turn Iran to karballa ( start losing battle and die-matayered- in process )

 

[mulj]

USA puts herself in the corner , if she start war and take damage and can't achieve it's goal in limited time window , it's military hegemony will weaken against both Russia and China...

If the war continue more than a week ( which is more likely to happen ), USA will target civilian infrastructures to at least show force and scare others to not disobey her ...

IR won't care about Iranian people and will fight to bitter end .

If this war continue for a month , The real victor will be China and Russia...

The ultimate loser will be Iranians .


That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

l
I didn't want war with USA and I didn't want to Iran be sacrificed for sake of China and Russia , so I wanted nukes to Iran to be able have normal relationship with the west .

but even in this site the agent of Russia and china were firmly against Iran getting nukes and we're push some lunatic in Iran toward war with usa to turn Iran to karballa ( start losing battle and die-matayered- in process )

Surrender your missiles, nuclear program, give oil to the western companies, open only fans, legalize lgbt movement, call taylor swift to have concert in teheran, bring shah back demolish some mosques and ban islam.
Then you will have not normal but great relations with west.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

The NK nuclear program was given by Russia, and China was against it.

China wouldn't be against Iran to obtain nuclear weapons same as NK.

It was your liberal faction who got bribed by the US and Israel who caused you to lose the opportunity to obtain the nuclear weapons in the impeccable timing.

 

[ety]

That why both Russia and China didn't let IR to armed with nukes ....

As a signatory to Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, Chinese state can't openly and officially support Iran to acquire nukes, so maybe officially true with Russia. But, the Chinese public sentiment is sympathetic for Iran to possess nukes to deter US/Israel. Iran might be better had it chosen the route of North Korea in developing nukes, but that's a risk the Iranian gov and nation would have been willing to take.

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[Pak-Warrior]

Surrender your missiles, nuclear program, give oil to the western companies, open only fans, legalize lgbt movement, call taylor swift to have concert in teheran, bring shah back demolish some mosques and ban islam.
Then you will have not normal but great relations with west.

West only cares about its control over a regime and not really cares if a country is religious or cares about human rights etc. Those are excuses only made against any country which decides to make their own foreign policy. US never cares if a country is ultra religious or ultra modern.

Until a decade ago KSA was very ultra religious, strict religious policing, no concept of concerts etc, women can't even drive, human rights and everything could be pointed out far more aggressively than what they do with Iran but still KSA was the "ally" because US has control over its regime and foreign policy. US was super happy with KSA because it invests billions of dollars in US & purchases US weapons at many times higher price then original price. NATO countries buy same hardware at 1/5th of the cost. US govt won't even dared to point out KSA on being ultra islamists those days and they won't dare to bring democracy over there as all they care is a control over country's policies and its wealth. That's all they care.

Its a severe misconception in islamic world, that US or the west govts wants to bring liberalism into islamic world. The West would prefer a hardline islamist govt which allows its resources over a liberal & democratic one which puts its sovereignty & terms above all. The current leader of Syria is a hardline one but he is a favorite of Trump.

CIA has historically supported, armed, and trained various hardline Islamic movements and regimes, primarily as a geopolitical tool to counter communist influence during the Cold War or to oppose specific regional rivals. Bottomline is they never cared about "Taylor swift concerts", or banning mosques or anything like that. They don't give a dime to what countries do inside their own borders as long as countries are paying them in one way or another and not challenge the hegemony and status quo.

 

[hussain0216]

He's a real weird dude....very, very smart for his age, and the fker has photographic memory. But he's also a white Christian nationalist.
That kind of thinking is short term....The future of this planet won't be based on racial or religious divide....all of those walls will eventually crumble. With AI and metaverse things such as borders, race, religious affiliation won't mean much...it will all be about money and return on investment. If not, we're doomed as an species.

We are already doomed as a species the breakdown of racial, religious and cultural identity has led to a demographic crisis

The peoples that will survive this will be the ones that embrace their cultural, religious identity the most

The ones that can protect their identity, not allow it to become degraded and debauched and keep the traditional family and marriage system going will energy whilst the demographic crisis takes hold elsewhere