Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

But he didn't resist at all, he signed JCPOA and is engaging in negotiations with Trump as we speak. He only resisted when forced during the 12 day war and signed a ceasefire as soon as he could.

Again. You need to look at it from his lense. He has resisted regime change for decades. Iran is still officially Islamic republic of Iran. The AoR is still alive even though deeply wounded. Iran is still officially a Shia nation. The worlds sole hyperpower had to make a deal with Iran because they couldn’t achieve regime change. Israel with all its backing couldn’t defeat Iran and had to sue for peace.

Isnt the Iran-Iraq war celebrated as a huge victory even though it crippled our economy for a decade and we lost close to 1/2 million people? Gaza is destroyed, millions are displaced, hundreds of thousands are probably dead if you don’t believe the official number. Ask Khamenei and he will genuinely believe that the Gazans won.

 

[mangekyo]

how is the water situation in IR cities now and for the summers? and would IR crop output would change due to this drought?

Pak. is extemely susceptible to crop output changes, if wate shortages persist, does it happen in your country as well?

There are water shortages and salt storms in some regions. I don’t know how severe it is though, the numbers are probably manipulated.

 

[Immortals]

Isnt the Iran-Iraq war celebrated as a huge victory even though it crippled our economy for a decade and we lost close to 1/2 million people?

Reality is, Iran-Iraq war was a disaster because Iran’s leadership made another bonehead decision.

1982, Saddam offered a ceasefire and for borders to go back to pre-invasion. The war could have been done with minimal losses and a resounding Iranian victory. However, Khomeini refused to accept peace and instead wanted Karbala and sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths and destroyed the economy. Only in 1988 with the war in a stalemate and Rafsanjani begging him, did he “drink from poisoned chalice” and accept peace.

6 years of unnecessary war because you had a clergymen leading the military motivated on exporting the revolution and capturing sacred religious sites then doing what was best for his country.

Khamenai became the opposite version of Khomeini when it came to violence and shunned confrontation any chance he could due to the damage his predecessor did to the country.

So no, the Iran-Iraq war was not a huge victory. It was a self inflicted gunshot wound.

 

[StrategicBear]

Lol, this Israeli account is seriously deluded enough to think bunker-buster bombs can penetrate hundreds of meters beneath a mountain to hit Iranian missile bases?

 

[hasssanali8998]

It's mutual ass kissing , why don't you show the clips where trump is kissing FM muneer's ass ? Your entire parliament was kissing Pakistan's ass ... you ingrate Iranians.

bhai not the time chordo bas .

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Maybe things will start in 10hrs? Best not to take what the orange clown says at face value.

 

[mangekyo]

Reality is, Iran-Iraq war was a disaster because Iran’s leadership made another bonehead decision.

1982, Saddam offered a ceasefire and for borders to go back to pre-invasion. The war could have been done with minimal losses and a resounding Iranian victory. However, Khomeini refused to accept peace and instead wanted Karbala and sent hundreds of thousands to their deaths and destroyed the economy. Only in 1988 with the war in a stalemate and Rafsanjani begging him, did he “drink from poisoned chalice” and accept peace.

6 years of unnecessary war because you had a clergymen leading the military motivated on exporting the revolution and capturing sacred religious sites then doing what was best for his country.

Khamenai became the opposite version of Khomeini when it came to violence and shunned confrontation any chance he could due to the damage his predecessor did to the country.

So no, the Iran-Iraq war was not a huge victory. It was a self inflicted gunshot wound.

I agree that it wasn’t a huge victory. I’m explaining that we don’t define resistance and victory the same way Khamenei does.

 

[mangekyo]

Unconfirmed

 

[tsunset]

Unconfirmed

Probably fake news

 

[StrategicBear]

In the first hour of war, Iran must immediately :

1. Target all USN ships
2. Fire SRBMs at all US bases in the Middle East.
3. Khoramshahr-4 to wipe out strategic sites in Israel in a concentrated salvo with Fattah Hypersonics.
4. Saturate Diego Garcia with 300-500 of those newer 4000km-range drones
5. If China and Russia agree/allows, mine heavily the entrance to Hormuz, splitting Iranian Naval operations into 2 zones east and west of the heavily-mined chokepoint
6. Message Arab nations that if they join the war or target Iranian oil facilities, Iranian missiles will destroy their oil refineries/storage tanks too
7. Send Special Forces to Iraq and other Arab nations to do infiltration attacks on US bases or assets accompanied with short quadcopter drones/drones with wire to prevent jamming like the Ukrainians often use.
8. Ghadir subs goes on happy hunting for any USN underwater subs in the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf.
9. ASBMs and Swarm UUV Drones sinks a USN Aircraft Carrier.
10. Pro-IRI Iranian Civillians(NON-IRGC AND NON-MILITARY) holds massive celebrations in Tehran if carrier sank under full media coverage, to further demoralize the foes and humiliate Trump.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Maybe things will start in 10hrs? Best not to take what the orange clown says at face value.

well said, instead of finding out, what were the motives of Epstein, he is busy in diverting attention.

in other words, busy saving his A**

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

In the first hour of war, Iran must immediately :

1. Target all USN ships
2. Fire SRBMs at all US bases in the Middle East.
3. Khoramshahr-4 to wipe out strategic sites in Israel in a concentrated salvo with Fattah Hypersonics.
4. Saturate Diego Garcia with 300-500 of those newer 4000km-range drones
5. If China and Russia agree/allows, mine heavily the entrance to Hormuz, splitting Iranian Naval operations into 2 zones east and west of the heavily-mined chokepoint
6. Message Arab nations that if they join the war or target Iranian oil facilities, Iranian missiles will destroy their oil refineries/storage tanks too
7. Send Special Forces to Iraq and other Arab nations to do infiltration attacks on US bases or assets accompanied with short quadcopter drones/drones with wire to prevent jamming like the Ukrainians often use.
8. Ghadir subs goes on happy hunting for any USN underwater subs in the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf.
9. ASBMs and Swarm UUV Drones sinks a USN Aircraft Carrier.
10. Pro-IRI Iranian Civillians(NON-IRGC AND NON-MILITARY) holds massive celebrations in Tehran if carrier sank under full media coverage, to further demoralize the foes and humiliate Trump.

Point 7 is basically a pre-war thing but very important.

11. Brutal execution of Traitors and Traitors who are already captured should be publicly executed within the first hour of war and make them example.

12. Use dirty bomb against Israel as soon as regime is start loosing it's grip. Use it before you loose it.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Epstein files have proven that the American people are not even bothered to rise up when American Children are Trafficked, Raped and ritualistically murdered by their Baal worshipping Zionist "elites".

Americans are stress tested every single day... they're financially maxed out, tired and mentally drained.
They can hardly be bothered with... no one wants to know or hear the pain of the other... there is no appetite, appreciation or heart.
"A common Americanism is
"How you doin'?
Who cares... no one listens anyway!"

Which brings me to one more reason in urgency for this attack... it is already becoming a major financial concern... the one big beautiful bill raised the debt ceiling to $41~ trillion... a number approaching fast... besides needing continuing resolutions to keep the government funded.

My guess is this aggression would take US past the tipping point very fast. One last hurrah for zion before the lights go dark... or a reset is implemented curbing future posture. It also sets well with his fortress North America donroe mocktrin!
This scenario things sit well with his Cuban, Canadian and Greenland gambits! Something only true aggression back home towards every neighbor to maintain regional primacy by force... without any financial muscle.

So Iran has its task cutout... stretch it as far out ... because orange is sitting on a very short fuse and zion knows it!

 

[Cash gk]

When I entered the number, I missed the word "万." The actual amount is 1.37 million barrels.

Chinese national statistics show that total imports from Malaysia are approximately 1.37 million barrels per day. This represents the total volume of crude oil exported to China from Malaysia, Iran, and Venezuela combined. You can estimate Iran's share of this figure as you see fit.

If Iran were to fall and its oil came under American control, as happened in Venezuela, China would be in a difficult situation. They would rely heavily on Russia for oil and have little choice but to defend Iran to maintain access.Let's suppose if Iranians are able to destroy one or two carrier groups, it will be a Big dent to Americans forces as well.