Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Beast89]

Fight your enemies like how they fight. Israelis have no morals and goyim USA does what ever. Saw what happened in Lebanon of holding back and calibrating enough not to get USA involved.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Israeli TV channel was meeting with Kurdish PJAK terrorist leaders near the Iranian border (likely in Iraq)

 

[Beast89]

The goal is not only Israel's unquestionable regional dominance but also Israel's territorial expansion.
Maybe some people will wake up if/when south Lebanon is lost; it is too fertile, too strategic for Israel to ignore. They have been salivating over that land for a long time.

American goyim dies, Israelis thrive as the saying goes. Americans are hellbent hurting themselves for Israel

 

[TruthSeeker]

I think the US attack on Iran can still be prevented. But only if Iran's political leadership really tries to counter Israel's obvious dominance of USA political discourse. Iran needs to (1) give Trump a win on the nuclear issue and (2) do a PR blitz in the USA to break through to the American public that it has settled the nuclear fear issue with the USA and that its missiles are only an issue for Israel, in no way a threat to the USA. Time is running out. Perhaps Iran does not possess the skill to mount the necessary emergency PR campaign in Western media. A tragedy for all concerned.

 

[Immortals]

Why would Iran be discussing this right now?

3. Discussions include location, level, and number of uranium centrifuges

Because any centrifuge facility the following things matter:

Location: above ground/below ground/inside mountain

Level: IR-1/2 or newer IR-4 and IR-6 centrifuges. What about IR-8 and IR-X next generation centrifuges? This determines the standard working unit (SWU) rate of Iran’s centrifuges.

Amount: 100 centrifuges? 1000 centrifuges? 10000 centrifuges?

So of course any discussion of the future of Iran’s nuclear enrichment capacity has to go in to these “technical matters”.

 

[Meengla]

American goyim dies, Israelis thrive. Americans are hellbent hurting themselves for Israel

American oligarchy. Not average Americans as much anymore. Tucker Carson, Marjorie Taylor Green, Steve Bannon are stalwarts of the MAGA crowd and their eyes have been opened about Israel. And a plurality of the Democratic party supporters have recently polled to favor Palestinians over the Israelis.
Things are changing--even in America--but the main issue is the pace of the changes. Netanyahu knows well he is working against a clock, which is working against him, and so he wants to grab as much as possible, as quickly as possible before the velvet curtain protecting Israel falls.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Because any centrifuge facility the following things matter:

Location: above ground/below ground/inside mountain

Level: IR-1/2 or newer IR-4 and IR-6 centrifuges. What about IR-8 and IR-X next generation centrifuges? This determines the standard working unit (SWU) rate of Iran’s centrifuges.

Amount: 100 centrifuges? 1000 centrifuges? 10000 centrifuges?

So of course any discussion of the future of Iran’s nuclear enrichment capacity has to go in to these “technical matters”.

if we can maintain any form of enrichment (something we are not doing now), get meaningful sanctions relief, avoid war for the next three years, and avoid giving missile concessions, then we all need to applaud Araghchi

but it seems like a very tall order and war remains the more likely scenario.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Because any centrifuge facility the following things matter:

Location: above ground/below ground/inside mountain

Level: IR-1/2 or newer IR-4 and IR-6 centrifuges. What about IR-8 and IR-X next generation centrifuges? This determines the standard working unit (SWU) rate of Iran’s centrifuges.

Amount: 100 centrifuges? 1000 centrifuges? 10000 centrifuges?

So of course any discussion of the future of Iran’s nuclear enrichment capacity has to go in to these “technical matters”.

To me, seems a little early to be going into providing targeting information at this stage of talks? ( just me i guess.)

 

[Meengla]

if we can maintain any form of enrichment (something we are not doing now), get meaningful sanctions relief, avoid war for the next three years, and avoid giving missile concessions, then we all need to applaud Araghchi
but it seems like a very tall order and war remains the more likely scenario.

Uranium enrichment, whether 1% or 5% or 20% or 90%, is immaterial at this point, It is the Iranian missiles able to reach Tel Aviv which is the main point. And when / if Iran agrees on the missile demands, then the next demand could be 'free the political prisoners' or 'allow women this and that' or 'allow free press'. Or else!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I think the US attack on Iran can still be prevented. But only if Iran's political leadership really tries to counter Israel's obvious dominance of USA political discourse. Iran needs to (1) give Trump a win on the nuclear issue and (2) do a PR blitz in the USA to break through to the American public that it has settled the nuclear fear issue with the USA and that its missiles are only an issue for Israel, in no way a threat to the USA. Time is running out. Perhaps Iran does not possess the skill to mount the necessary emergency PR campaign in Western media. A tragedy for all concerned.

That’s like saying the person about to have his hands cut off is somehow responsible for the delay, as if evil doesn’t exist and wrongdoers aren’t real.

You are asking for what your own politicians would call a pariah act.

how selfish!

 

[hasssanali8998]

To me, seems a little early to be going into providing targeting information at this stage of talks? ( just me i guess.)

yeah i hope iran isnt falling for these tricks

 

[925boy]

You didn’t get my point. Iran will defend itself against any millitary aggression. We have no change beating the US and they have no chance beating us. Im worried about the post-war effects

Ok.
Offcourse Iran has a chance of beating the US, just like Iraq and Afghanistan did, but maybe your understanding of what "beating" means in this case is different from my understanding.

US, to me, has a modest(at best ) chance of "beating" or defeating Iran.

This US Iran issue now is such a mind ful- even with all our knowledge and understanding, we are all likely to still get shocked by somethings we will see if the war happens.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

these conservative clowns make comedians look feeble!

 

[mythbuster]

Question is, does Iran get to enrich in any meaningful amounts or will it be a token 100 centrifuge pilot facility of IR-1’s or 2’s so Iran can save face, but in reality it isn’t enriching anything?

Iran will get face-saving in both nuclear and missile programmes.
.. utter humiliation doesn't produce desired results...it always backfires .

 

[Immortals]