Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Garcia Sea]

If Iran is proposing to halt uranium enrichment at this stage while forgetting the JCPOA, this is deliberate betrayal.
Both the military and civilians will completely lose trust in the government, and the Islamic Republic will face the fate of collapsing without a fight, like the Assad regime.
After collapse, only the central desert region will remain for the diminished Iran, and Iranians will finally realize that the Western-style luxurious life they dreamed of was nothing but an illusion.
Let me be clear: Iran should have gone to war with the US ten years ago.
Its allies were intact, its economy stable, Soleimani was still alive, and US stealth technology wasn't as advanced as it is now.
Back then, they could have fought a far better battle.
Time is not on Iran's side. The longer the start of the war with the US is delayed, the closer Iran moves toward complete ruin.
Is it even necessary to explain what will happen if, after signing this humiliating agreement and losing prestige, allowing anti regime forces to run rampant domestically, Iran is invaded years later by a vastly reinforced US military and the IDF?

 

[hussain0216]

If Iran is proposing to halt uranium enrichment at this stage while forgetting the JCPOA, this is deliberate betrayal.
Both the military and civilians will completely lose trust in the government, and the Islamic Republic will face the fate of collapsing without a fight, like the Assad regime.
After collapse, only the central desert region will remain for the diminished Iran, and Iranians will finally realize that the Western-style luxurious life they dreamed of was nothing but an illusion.
Let me be clear: Iran should have gone to war with the US ten years ago.
Its allies were intact, its economy stable, Soleimani was still alive, and US stealth technology wasn't as advanced as it is now.
Back then, they could have fought a far better battle.
Time is not on Iran's side. The longer the start of the war with the US is delayed, the closer Iran moves toward complete ruin.
Is it even necessary to explain what will happen if, after signing this humiliating agreement and losing prestige, allowing anti regime forces to run rampant domestically, Iran is invaded years later by a vastly reinforced US military and the IDF?

One of the reasons Israel is so eager to attack now is that they don't have time to allow Iran to address it's issues

If they give iran let's say 5 years, all the means is that Iran will address it's A.D issues, possibly build it's airforce up and build thousands of missiles having learnt the lessons of the 12 day war

Internal situation aside, the more they leave Iran the more stronger militarily it will become, it will also give Iran time to reach out to China and Russia and build rapport and obtain support

 

[Fasbre2]

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: We hope PM Modi addresses issue of Palestinian rights during his visit to Israel. India is a historic friend to Iran, and I am confident of friendly bilateral ties. I hope India plays a positive role to establish peace in our region.



geez man
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Iranian donkeys deserve everything coming their way if they still think Indians are their friends..

 

[StrategicBear]

If Iran is proposing to halt uranium enrichment at this stage while forgetting the JCPOA, this is deliberate betrayal.
Both the military and civilians will completely lose trust in the government, and the Islamic Republic will face the fate of collapsing without a fight, like the Assad regime.
After collapse, only the central desert region will remain for the diminished Iran, and Iranians will finally realize that the Western-style luxurious life they dreamed of was nothing but an illusion.
Let me be clear: Iran should have gone to war with the US ten years ago.
Its allies were intact, its economy stable, Soleimani was still alive, and US stealth technology wasn't as advanced as it is now.
Back then, they could have fought a far better battle.
Time is not on Iran's side. The longer the start of the war with the US is delayed, the closer Iran moves toward complete ruin.
Is it even necessary to explain what will happen if, after signing this humiliating agreement and losing prestige, allowing anti regime forces to run rampant domestically, Iran is invaded years later by a vastly reinforced US military and the IDF?

It's still not too late.

As an example, if this war starts next year, then Iran would have given USA more time to accumulate more mass-produced copycat versions of their own Shahed drones like the LUCAS, which US would definitely use to fire thousands of them on Iranian targets as a low-cost alternative to the much pricier Tomahawks and stealth PGMs.

Fighting this war now means Iran doesn't have to face thousands upon thousands of a "taste of its own medicine" right now when the US still hasn't scaled up LUCAS production to accumulate to more than 10,000(which would be a grave threat to Iran if used in any opening salvo if paired with AI, since these can loiter over the area before plummetting).

Now Iran only has to face a few hundreds upon hundreds of Tomahawks and PGMs that cost more for the US to produce, thus opening up a huge gap with them not able to replace with more, because China looks set to cut off Rare Earths that can be used to make those PGMs and missiles. Even some parts of F-35s require Rare Earths...

Now Iran can reasonably saturate all US bases in the region without having to face huge saturation attack from Low-Cost Attack Missiles/Drones from its adversaries now, so this war is better fought now than a year later, IMHO.

 

[جوبا]

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: We hope PM Modi addresses issue of Palestinian rights during his visit to Israel. India is a historic friend to Iran, and I am confident of friendly bilateral ties. I hope India plays a positive role to establish peace in our region.



geez man
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Wow after all the shit this guy…

 

[جوبا]

I meant left Persian Gulf to join the AC in the out of the Gulf of Oman.

Yes I know, I was just showing that the other carrier still hasn’t reached CENTCOM

 

[kobra]

Attack is a go by all means now. They have made their mind. Whatever little room/miracle for diplomacy was there its ended. Most lethal war machine is going to another war. Prayers and best wishes for brave and courageous Iranian people.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Attack is a go by all means now. They have made their mind. Whatever little room/miracle for diplomacy was there its ended. Most lethal war machine is going to another war. Prayers and best wishes for brave and courageous Iranian people.

Rubio sounds like Michael Corleone

 

[hussain0216]

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: We hope PM Modi addresses issue of Palestinian rights during his visit to Israel. India is a historic friend to Iran, and I am confident of friendly bilateral ties. I hope India plays a positive role to establish peace in our region.



geez man
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[maverick]

I am just very glad the Indian PM Modi is going to Israel to meet Netanyahu especially when an Israeli engineered attack on Iran is being planned. Foreign policy blunders of Modi continue and continue they shall!

he has been brought there to be on standby, incase Israel sees Pakistan's involvement in supporting Iran, India will be asked by their master to attack Pakistan. That is the whole purpose of his visit, is to conspire and be a part of attack on Iran and Pakistan.

 

[bengalcdn]

man they must have some real bad images and videos of trump with underage girls. Rubio Vance are all controlled by Larry Ellison the Zionist

 

[lightning f57]

There is wide spread reporting on possible sales of CM302 supersonic anti ship missiles to Iran. Interesting to note this missile uses beidou satellite navigation.

 

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[kastor ville]

How do you think they should prepare for it?
Suppose you're a decision maker now. What would you do?

I've said it many times, I don't have military experience...but if you allow me some artistic license, I'll give it a shot. I used to a corporate troubleshooter...I used to boast that good management skills are like science...they can be applied to any discipline.
1. Prepare primary battle plan...run it through multiple scenarios, these scenarios would depend on how the enemy might start the attack.
2. Break up the leadership into 3 groups, each group would be cross trained or have SMEs/deputies from each branch represented...such as Army, AF, Navy, IRGC, intelligence, and Logistics..etc. Disperse the group to safe houses or hardened bunkers.
3. Assign primary objectives for each division...so they can act independently of central command. Have each group review logistics and supply chain, in case of disruption.
4. Have 24/7 fighter jets patrols in the sky..augmented with Cobra helis.
5. Start moving TELs around every 8 hours or whatever the time limit is for the enemy satellites covering the country...there has to be a dead spot during the 24 time period where their satellites are not in position all over the country. Disperse the TELs park them in tunnels...unused non-military hangers or warehouses.
6. Dispatch swarm boats...rotate them per shift...so at any given time we have a few dozen or more on patrol at all times.
7. If if I was in charge, I would have already called on the chinese or the russians to supply us with radiation missiles... I understand from my limited experience. The Growlers are not immune to the radiation seeking missiles.
8. I would dispatch special forces inside Iraq to attack the enemy bases there with drones, also I would smuggle TELs disguised. Same with syria, and Lebanon..I would have semi trucks ready to go loaded with drones to attack Israel from multiple points...they would have to devote satellites and forces away from Iran to try and contain them, and create multiple fronts to draw the enemies attention and resources.
9. Now for my signature idea that I know has already been picked up: close the strait....with mines, kilo subs, maritime BMs....attack UAEs terminal...don't completely destroy it, just one missile to send the gas prices through the roof. I would also attack the backup oil pipeline that was created to bypass the Persian Gulf expressly for this day and reason.
10. Concentrate all missile power on carriers to stop sorties, and have the planes wave off and land at alternate locations. Swarm the rest of the naval assets and damage them as much as possible. Now I know during this time, they will have a lot of air assets flying overhead.... This is why we need surprises.. Such as drones launch from iraq... TELs that are dispersed all over the country. While other TELs are disguised at semi trucks. Because time is short before they can take them out.