Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

what these bases are good for, if no one is willing to fight

every body either wants to protest or negotiate!

such a shame!

your leader passed way, and, still people want to negotiate?!
Not passed away, assassinated by foreign attackers.
 
People think that no for china Pakistan is different. Is it ? Iran could give China fuel for 50+ years, yet China didn't bothered to protect it from enemies. What Pakistan offers to china ? Nothing.

Off topic but Pakistan is China's western fort, a cheap investment against India, a live lab for Chinese weaponry, a sales person for China's arms industry, and indeed a route to the richer regions of the world like Europe and the Middle East.
China may not directly come to Pakistan's aid but will definitely help Pakistan anything short of direct involvement. I believe Pakistan is capable of fighting on its own with a little indirect help from a few friendly countries.
 
If you cannot impose a cost, then you will "always" be fighting another day. That is the problem that has gotten Iran into the mess it is in now, it has never demonstrated the ability to actually fight and impose a deterrence cost. If Iran is truly asking for talks now, it is asking to be "mowed" again in a few months, and again, and again.
There are two ways. Both are difficult choices.

1) Continue fighting and risk the whole population and economy.

2) Cease fighting and get a deal with guarantee while waiting for Trump to leave.


Both are not easy choices to make. Iran has to decide what is best. It's painful to lose your supreme leader and understandable if Iran does not wants to stop, but it also risks further fragmentation of the Iranian population.

If it were up to me, continue fighting again for a week till next Saturday, allow the market to crash and get a better negotiable deal. But that's only IF IF I have enough ballistic missiles to keep proding Israel. Their interceptors are running out and this is a good opportunity for them to enter the "find out" phase.
 
very disappointed with IR leadership, it is high time, to fire missiles and then bring the enemy to negotiate

you cant live/survive for long, better to cause damage to delay negotiations
 
For Iran to succeed

It needs to sink / damage considerably a carrier or 2.

However unlikely.

If it can't do that, then it can't win either.
Or take out their financial system with no oil and gas from the gulf for months. Hit Saudi oil. No Middle East oil and gas. And have trump take the blame.
 

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