Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Musings]

Which I have been doing? Can I voice my opinion or not?

Ye you can without abusing ar attempting to be moderating.

 

[RescueRanger]

I told you guys this earlier today. And someone laughed at it

But don't the Iranians still have TELs?

 

[mangekyo]

Ah thats it, let's ignore the airstrikes on Tehran! I never said we shouldnt change leaders, that's a pure strawman, I'm saying it has no impact on our chances of victory. So basically what youve done there is painted a picture of a potential power struggle between IRGC and the leadership. That's a sorry state of affairs in the midst of a war, dont you think.

I asked what did they achieve that actually makes a difference. You’re the one who mentioned the leadership. I’m consistently saying it doesn’t matter how many of them they kill. We will replace the leadership again and again and again.

I’m not ignoring the air strikes. You first said they are turning Tehran into Gaza. Then you said that they are going to. Thats pure speculation from your part. Tehran is nothing like Gaza. It’s not even close.

And yes, I absolutely believe that IRGC should not allow the leadership to accept any ceasefire just to save themselves.

There is no reason to believe the enemy won’t attack again when we are in a weaker position. This is the 3rd time in a row they fooled us.

 

[Immortals]

The emerging new leadership in Iran should enter negotiations while some semblance of bargaining chips remain in their hand. They have a lengthy battle at hand from internal factions which may pounce at the next opportunity.

There is no “bargaining chips”. Bargaining chips were 2020. Bargaining chips were 2023.

Iran no longer had a competent IADS and its nuclear program is approaching 1 year buried under rubble and our commission.

The “saddam-ification” of Iran has started. Either Iran agrees to Trumps demands or they will just continue bombing Iran till it looks more like Gaza.

 

[Al-Zakir]

In my lifetime, I met

18 Israelis killed in Iran's missile strike near Jerusalem this morning



a great strike

Fi nari Jahanama !

 

[Hatim]

So the Pakistan-Afghanistan conflict has the American backing and I tend to think Pakistan knew an attack on Iran was just about to happen and so Pakistan created its own 'fog of war' to grab some Afghan territory.
There is nothing Pakistan will do for Iran except taking in refugees if comes to that and sending material civilian aid. And there is nothing Pakistan can actually do without risking an India-Israel combine with even support from America against Pakistan. The damn cave dwellers in Afghanistan are enough of a threat if the Americans decide to back them!
Iran had sheltered a Mughal Emperor centuries ago, then also helped Pakistan during the 1965 and 1971 wars against India but Pakistan is too much vulnerable to do more for Iran then try to defuse the situation. Those criticizing the Pakistani PM for Trump boot licking should know that nothing concrete was offered to Trump by Pakistan which is against Iran or against any Muslim countries but Pakistan was able to extract major concessions like upgrading the Pakistani fleet of F-16s, which was denied since 2021. Pakistan's governance is a shamble, its economy is really bad, but Pakistan's foreign policy, along with Pakistan's Air Force is where Pakistan does the best.

A very rational Analysis

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[RescueRanger]

@ArmTwister thread banned. Reason: Repeated off topic posts- sharing Pak news in Iranian thread despite mod request to avoid.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[PakAl]

are the anti-regime supporter, in great numbers in low tier cities?

or are they restricted to major IR cities?

and how many IR major cities have strong population centers of anti-regime supporters?

any idea?

Its all propaganda, they have a few 1000s in all areas, remember Iran has 90m population. Majority of Iran supports their government and the revolution.

 

[Musings]

Even the BBC are reporting the attack on the school as a barbaric attack and are putting it on Israel. They simply arent human. This is another war crime added on the long list they have already committed

 

[Persian Gulf]

cook off at ammo depot in US base in Erbil after Iraqi missile strikes

 

[Tehrani021]

I asked what did they achieve that actually makes a difference. You’re the one who mentioned the leadership. I’m consistently saying it doesn’t matter how many of them they kill. We will replace the leadership again and again and again.

I’m not ignoring the air strikes. You first said they are turning Tehran into Gaza. Then you said that they are going to. Thats pure speculation from your part. Tehran is nothing like Gaza. It’s not even close.

And yes, I absolutely believe that IRGC should not allow the leadership to accept any ceasefire just to save themselves.

There is no reason to believe the enemy won’t attack again when we are in a weaker position. This is the 3rd time in a row they fooled us.

The fact that we're left in a situation where the IRGC has to struggle with the leadership on what to do next is a sure indication that the decapitation strikes have shook the decision making process. And your retort of replacing leaders will further make things difficult.

I said they are TURNING Tehran into Gaza, which implies an ongoing process. And yes Tehran will turn into Gaza if the strikes continue. My opinion won't change.

Okay, so be prepared for annihilation.

 

[Aad80]

Haifa Oil Refinery has been hit (just like last summer) in the past 24 hours. Confirmed by CENTCOM.