Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds


You still think no Russian help 😉 @Oscar
That is 100% Russian missile technology.

Zion has a population of 10.1 million people. Of those, 1.8 million are Russians.

Russia will not provide any such military capability to Iran that can harm its 1.8 million Russian people.
 
Pretty cooked. Even if we survive, the military has been set back 10-20 years. Our Navy completely destroyed. Air defenses gone.

The best we can hope for is there was a secret nuclear program somewhere and they are sprinting towards the bomb since June and we get a nuclear test in coming days.

But that’s just copium.

We are on pace to look like Iraq 2003 or Gaza 2024 at the rate of bombs dropping.

You didn't start the war. It was imposed on you.

This is month of Ramadan and as Muslim, I truly believe you will get the support from almighty.
 
This won’t happen if iran continues to strike the gcc and KSA and cause damage to infrastructure and civilians.
How much more drones/missiles on empty bases in those countries? Aren’t they destroyed already? Iwould think they r taken out already

Something isn’t adding up here. Is Iran still striking gcc or its only striking israel now? This is not clear at all from this thread…..as we keep seeing x posts mentioning iran still striking all of them….

Fog of war it seems nobody knows and everyone speculates
There is no central command. Each commander makes his own decision on what to target. That is why you see what looks like a haphazard target selection.
 
Iranians are arrogant and refused to play the game
That's why none of their allys are showing up

After the war they need to go back to the drawing board and make peace with Gulf Arabs or else forget pak even China wouldn't help
They'll be isolated

It all goes back to how no one wants to piss of Gulf Arabs not the Chinese, not the Russian nor Pakos although since we're islamist we'll have some sensitivities but at the end of the day you have to play the game
You're not living in an island

My older post
""IF" the government in Iran survives, they need to have some serious trust-building exercises with GCC arabs

Because I feel China is a bit hesitant to provide serious weaponry to Iran as they still want a good relationship with GCC Arabs and they feel that if they arm the current Iranian government in any meaningful way it might piss of GCC arabs to such an extent that they won't be able to make inroads with the Gulf monarchies for the foreseeable future

They don't want that risk

And a lot of people are talking about building up Iran's nuclear program, well as long as GCC arabs are against it Iran wont be able to make its nuclear weapons in peace where they'll provide full support to israeli, American bombings

Hell I think with our saudi pact, someday god forbid, and I say that very seriously, as it'd be very counterproductive for the region

Even we might have to get involved on the wrong side at least passively.

When the war is over its essential for Iran to have a better relationship with GCC arabs or else itll be more of the same for Iran as far as its isolation is concerned."

The GCC is not a political or military factor to the extent you are portraying it. The Chinese value their trade relationship with the GCC no doubt, but it is not Iran's "relationship-management" rather the fact that it is not integrated into the same system of control as them, and militarily threatening. You should observe that Israel does not face any such impediments to trade and military cooperation despite having a similarly belligerent stance.

Additionally, moderating their relationship with Iran also has to do with not wanting to attract too much of the ire of international Jewish forces that heavily influence the system of international trade. China has not yet successfully built a parallel system, so it navigates the same pressures as everyone else.

The GCC Arabs only have two vector's by which to influence the world around them: the sale of their natural resources, and the deployment of the financial proceeds from those sales to economically weak and desperate countries (i.e. Pakistan, to a lesser extent Turkiye). Outside of that, neither their current overseers in US/Israel or their trading partners, need to significantly incorporate them into any geopolitical calculation.

Iran cannot improve its position by improving bilateral relations with the GCC. The only relationship that can relieve its short-term lack of flexibility is that with US/Israel, who impose those obstructions. That however would involve surrender.

You are right that the "playing the game" and "waiting it out" was the smart money, because the US is losing power, but Israel can also see that same writing on the wall and that is why they are pursuing this acceleration of their agenda. Soon this storm will also come to the countries that have been "playing the game".
 
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