Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Our new oil reserves in Venezuela....

It is so damn evilish. They will steal even in a cemetery.

 

[Hayabusa]

This footage is better than nothing but so far the claim is true, vast majority of Iranian missiles to Israel have been

Video below explain why Netanyahu doesn't allow filming of what's really happening in Tel Aviv :



NOTE: As we can see, ALL iranian missels has being hit their targets.

Note: This is an old video in 2024.

 

[j_hungary]

It just shows how Important air power is, a decent airforce may have even detered US, Israel, if not their losses would have been huge. Taking out those air tankers and AWACS would have also messed up sorty rates and their ability to make long range attacks. Those big bombers would have stayed put.

What confuses me is Iran invested so much on domestic airdefences and radar systems, both have been largely ineffective. What gave them confidence in these systems to stay on this route or was it because Russia/China not offering any? Iran should have procured should launched mobile a2a missilesto use asymmetrically knowing it will be a long war where they need to hunker down.

The Navy, kilo subs, ships seem to be either at dock or far away isolated, no strategy or urgency to use these. Wouldn't it have been better for them to operate together out in the Arabian sea knowing an attack is Imminent or they thought lets not lose men worthlessly?

Whats the strategy with use of antiship missiles, looks like coastal use to disrupt shipping in hormuz and keep large US ships far way.

We can see most of the focus went on missile forces and drones, irans strongest offensive ability and to make it survive with underground missle cities and silos.

I wonder how much they prepared for guerilla style warfare but with anti aircraft, anti tank, ship mobile missiles.

It's a lot harder to do what you said than you think.

You are thinking of raw combat power alone (As in what kind of asset they have), and there are two factors in any use of force: the raw power itself and how you deploy raw power.

US and IDF attacks are always systematic because that comes from many years of combat experience. To attack someone, the first thing you need to think of is how to destroy their defense. If I had planned and you just come out swinging, I will win that fight 10 out of 10 times.

That is why the US (can't say for IDF) has devoted so much to supporting service, instead of just the tip of the spear. I don't need to be a part of this battle to know how much the US would have used electronic warfare against Iran before this attack, and if you have not been on the receiving end of this, you don't know how effective they are. The US is the only country that has a full-spectrum Electronic Warfare Suite that they can use on any battlefield; that's something not even the Chinese have at the moment. This is probably the key to why Iran offers so little resistance, the same way Venezuela had. Largely because they wouldn't know what hit them until they were hit.

 

[ToddE]

Definitely. People dont realize it but Israeli views towards southern Lebanon and most of western Syria are identical to the West Bank ie this is our land and our ancestors had big kingdoms here thousands of years ago.

But I do think it's part if a longer term plan like next 20 30 years so Al Sharra and his gang can enjoy themselves for quite a while.

No. Netanyahu and his gang are seeing opportunity now so they will do Condom-Sharra when his role is over, what they did to Hamas. The same Hamas that once fought against Syria and Hezbollah using Israeli-US-EU-Turkish weapons. As soon as Hezbollah is done due to lack of supply line from Iraq and Iran because of Condom Sharra appointment in Damascus through another Jew debted puppet Erdogan, they will mak eshort work of him. Read Talmud about their spritual connection to Syria.

 

[StrategicBear]

OK here, I'm not a scientist or chemist, and am not really an expert on how these complex gas-on-gas stuff interacts, but if Iran wants to launch missiles, drones under cover, so as to be unseen from the enemy or screwing with enemy targeting/tracking, can't Iran lay some sort of "Mass Smokescreen" across a large area that their launchers are positioned at, so they can deploy and assemble a large concentration of launchers while being concealed by the smoke and then fire them while under the cover of the smokescreen?

Of course, the massive layer of smoke rising up to the skies above needs to screw with enemy radar and thermal sensors too so they can't lock on to the launchers below, but as I said above I'm not an expert scientist on this matter, so can it be done, without the missile rocket fumes/exhaust? interfered or interacted by the smokescreen? Or launching drones is better?

 

[mangekyo]

Video below explain why Netanyahu doesn't allow filming of what's really happening in Tel Aviv :



NOTE: As we can see, ALL iranian missels has being hit their targets.

Old footage from 12 day war

 

[ToddE]

OK here, I'm not a scientist or chemist, and am not really an expert on how these complex gas-on-gas stuff interacts, but if Iran wants to launch missiles, drones under cover, so as to be unseen from the enemy or screwing with enemy targeting/tracking, can't Iran lay some sort of "Mass Smokescreen" across a large area that their launchers are positioned at, so they can deploy and assemble a large concentration of launchers while being concealed by the smoke and then fire them while under the cover of the smokescreen?

Of course, the massive layer of smoke rising up to the skies above needs to screw with enemy radar and thermal sensors too so they can't lock on to the launchers below, but as I said above I'm not an expert scientist on this matter, so can it be done, without the missile rocket fumes/exhaust? interfered or interacted by the smokescreen? Or launching drones is better?

Too many traitors. Not gonna work. Its a revolutionary government which atleast half the population dislikes.

 

[mulj]

What is it ?

Probably drone motors that Michael spoke about ordered by China but with presented in humoristic way by chinese or somebody thinks that iranians are crazy to order real grass mowers in midst of war.

 

[Watandar]

No. Netanyahu and his gang are seeing opportunity now so they will do Condom-Sharra when his role is over, what they did to Hamas. The same Hamas that once fought against Syria and Hezbollah using Israeli-US-EU-Turkish weapons. As soon as Hezbollah is done due to lack of supply line from Iraq and Iran because of Condom Sharra appointment in Damascus through another Jew debted puppet Erdogan, they will mak eshort work of him. Read Talmud about their spritual connection to Syria.

I think Netanyahu and his gang feel their chance is now to establish total dominance over the whole region. Subsequent Israelis will use this dominance over the next 20 to 50 years to expand their borders. It's how they work. Israelis see this attack on Iran as similar to their 1967 attack on neighboring Arab states, the dividends from which they are still enjoying to this day.

We are going off topic though but interesting side discussion

 

[Meengla]

Timely placement of CIA/Mossad backed AL Sharra in Syria through Turkey has paid off for Zios. Hezbollah has no support/supply from Iraq+Iran anymore and will be wiped off. Israel may annex the land and when the time is right they will get rid of Condom-Sharra and do same in Syria.

Assad's fall in Syria maybe a double edged sword. Short term, a debacle for Lebanon and Palestine. But who is to say if/when the Al Sharra Jolani, with the Turkish backing and the Sunni world's support, may not turn on Israel? As far as I can tell, as long as Erdogan or his ideology reigns in Turkey, then Turkey is a threat to Israel.

Our new oil reserves in Venezuela....

Yup, "our" new oil reserves! What a Freudian Slip! And yet some were saying VZ about 'drugs'. There was hardly any chatter about VZ being a drug conduit before toppling Maduro and there is hardly any chatter about VZ about a drug conduit since Maduro fell.

 

[StrategicBear]

Lebanese Minister of Information:

We will stop and expel every member of the Revolutionary Guard present in Lebanon. Every member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard present in Lebanon - will be arrested

I don't understand why Lebanese government is on the Zionist side when Israel broke many ceasefire before, so can anyone tell me why Lebanese government is so hostile to the idea of defending their country from Zionist invasion?

 

[j_hungary]

A lot of X accounts claiming most Iranian missiles were intercepted.


But the damages shown. Doesn't seem so.

Not sure how big the attack and the warhead are, but the building is not destroyed, which means this is probably shrapnel damage. Maybe a rocket or drone strike or a missile is intercepted and basically just falls on the civilian area

If you look at the aftermath of the Russian Missile attack on Ukraine, the first thing you will see is a crater at ground zero, that's where the warhead impacts the ground, and the damage then even out, and you will see nothing but debris after a few meters, and then shrapnel-damaged buildings radiate out

 

[Hayabusa]

Not sure how big the attack and the warhead are, but the building is not destroyed, which means this is probably a shrapnel attack. Maybe a rocket or a missile is intercepted and basically just falls on the civilian area

If you look at the aftermath of the Russian Missile attack on Ukraine, the first thing you will see is a crater at ground zero, that's where the warhead impacts the ground, and the damage then even out, and you will see nothing but debris after a few meters, and then shrapnel-damaged buildings radiate out

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Nicely explained. Thanks.

But I am amazed that even shrapnel can cause such damage. The only other alternative would be sub munitions.

 

[Sanin]

I find the Iranian claim that Azerbaijan strike wasn't them hard to believe, the drone in the footages exactly ressembles an Arash-2 drone

Somehow Israel/US managed to make a perfect copy of it to pass as a genuine Arash?

My thought is that maybe they have hacked the link or something like that? Iran already has a lot of rebellion inside
Maybe someone rebellion developer putting a small bug allowing control to jews???

 

[Meengla]

I think Netanyahu and his gang feel their chance is now to establish total dominance over the whole region. Subsequent Israelis will use this dominance over the next 20 to 50 years to expand their borders. It's how they work. Israelis see this attack on Iran as similar to their 1967 attack on neighboring Arab states, the dividends from which they are still enjoying to this day.
We are going off topic though but interesting side discussion

You are very much 'on topic'. Please, don't second guess that!
But this is also about China--or perhaps mostly about China as far as Americans are concerned.