Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Unknowntruth]

So what you are saying is that Turkey didn’t think the combined might of Iran + Iraqi resistance + Lebanese resistance + Syrian resistance + Yemeni resistance + Palestinians resistance who had surrounded Israel from all corners wasn’t a big enough threat to Israel? He had to help Mossad and CIA install a puppet there to cut the weapons supply, so Erdogan with his NATO and salafist army could defeat Israel?

Everyone acts within their own self interest. Look at Iran also playing a role in Yemen. Vast majority of Syrians disliked the Syrian regime whether you like it or not. Turkey is a Sunni country that choose to align with the majority who opposed Assad.

Assad had every opportunity to step down and transition power to avoid this blood shed. It was through Hezbollah and Iran that he even lasted this long.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

94% of Israeli Jews support the war against Iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Everyone acts within their own self interest. Look at Iran also playing a role in Yemen. Vast majority of Syrians disliked the Syrian regime whether you like it or not. Turkey is a Sunni country that choose to align with the majority who opposed Assad.

Assad had every opportunity to step down and transition power to avoid this blood shed. It was through Hezbollah and Iran that he even lasted this long.

Did he not create the chaos by training ISIS and Al-Qaida terrorists and send them to Syria? They even provided Isis material to gas Syrians. Turkey chose to take a side, with Israel of course.

And because you talk about «the vast majority» Doesn’t the vast majority of Sunni Palestinians dislike Israel? Turkey supplied Israel with energy and arms while Gaza was being genocided, and they still are btw. Taking sides with Israel as usual.

But go ahead and keep telling me how Turkey is going to destroy Israel

 

[Immortals]

I know but why would a secular republic need a liberal mullah leader for life? So the jews will give up on removing IRI?

First of all what is this nonsense about a “secular” republic. You are not getting a secular republic as long as IRGC control 40% of the apparatus of the economy.

You are not getting a secular republic as long as boots on the ground stay off the table.

Regime change via the air has never worked for a reason.

I don't think it is at all. It is one of the most important factors.

It is not. Bibi promised Trump a lot of things. Things that are now not materializing. If this war goes on for weeks and Iran is able to continue firing drones and missiles and causing damage then the financial interests of the world and the political viability of Republicans in mid terms will take precedent.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I think Pakistan and zionist israel are on a collision course, the sooner our establishment accepts it, the better our chances of survival.

Arm yourself to the teeth during times of peace because you dont get second chance once the sh*t starts to hit the fan.

of course, believing otherwise would living in a fool's world!

zios would question the hypothetical strength of such a relationship!

 

[Unknowntruth]

The problem with a lot of people is that they see everything as black and white. It’s not that simple, sometimes you have to bite your tongue and work with those whose interest maybe do not align or maybe even butt heads.

Geopolitics doesn’t care if you are a good guy or bad guy. You have to play the game to survive.

 

[Prince Hamoodi]

 

[mangekyo]

The problem with a lot of people is that they see everything as black and white. It’s not that simple, sometimes you have to bite your tongue and work with those whose interest maybe do not align or maybe even butt heads.

Geopolitics doesn’t care if you are a good guy or bad guy. You have to play the game to survive.

Why don’t we start worshipping Baal and sell our souls to Israel so we can reap the benefits then? We need to draw the line somewhere, the line I draw starts and ends when you cross into Zionist territory

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I think Pakistan and zionist israel are on a collision course, the sooner our establishment accepts it, the better our chances of survival.

Arm yourself to the teeth during times of peace because you dont get second chance once the sh*t starts to hit the fan.

israelis have made it clear that they want to annihilate ALL brown/olive-skinned Muslim countries. After Iran it is Turkey than Pakistan on their hit list.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

️ Araghchi to Trump:

Your first plan to achieve a quick and clean military victory has failed, and your alternative plan will lead to an even greater failure.

️ Araghchi:

The opportunity to reach an agreement was lost after the “Israel First” group overshadowed the significant progress achieved in the negotiations.

 

[Master Chief]

Mortality bends to necessity. The following is a very famous line in The Prince by Machiavelli:

"Hence it is necessary for a prince wishing to hold his own to know how to do wrong, and to make use of it or not according to necessity."

To understand the West, you have to read and read some more; its philosophical thought has been built over centuries.

Excellent interpretation and illustration of western duplicity in pursuit of selfish interests.

However I must differ with your tacit implication that we in the eastern world fundamentally do not have cognisance of this stark truth that underpins most of human nature. We most certainly do know of this game. Chanakiya is our continent's most notorious proponent and would have given Machiavelli a run for his money!

 

[Eşbah]

They are working on Micro-Satellite Launching System (MSLS) project of their own.

MSLV (Micro SLV) launch 2026
SIMSEK 1 launch 2027
SIMSEK 2 launch 2028-2030





They are making their own home built engine.
Testing should be this year and a time table by 2032 to be integrated.

I am not a weapons expert on Turkish weapons industry. I will leave that to my Turkish brothers like @Eşbah @hyperman

You cannot ignore their strides in drone capability, MBT, 5th generation aircraft building, frigates and corvettes, MURAD radar system, etc





Fighter aircraft’s are just one part of the equation. You have to have a capable air-force to go along with your ballistic missile capabilities and a layered air defense systems.

How much more powerful would Iran be if it had capable fighter aircraft to contest Israeli F35s?

Brother, I appreciate you tagging me. Your view of Turkey aligns closely with the actual ground realities, but let's refrain from discussing it any further because hell will freeze over, pigs will learn to fly and Netanyahu will become a Muslim before any PDF Iranian says something positive about Turkey. Let's focus on the thread's topic instead.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Unknowntruth]

The problem with a lot of people is that they see everything as black and white. It’s not that simple, sometimes you have to bite your tongue and work with those whose interest maybe do not align or maybe even butt heads.

Geopolitics doesn’t care if you are a good guy or bad guy. You have to play the game to survive.

Read my new posted I quoted.

Did he not create the chaos by training ISIS and Al-Qaida terrorists and send them to Syria? They even provided Isis material to gas Syrians. Turkey chose to take a side, with Israel of course.

And because you talk about «the vast majority» Doesn’t the vast majority of Sunni Palestinians dislike Israel? Turkey supplied Israel with energy and arms while Gaza was being genocided, and they still are btw. Taking sides with Israel as usual.

But go ahead and keep telling me how Turkey is going to destroy Israel

The Syrian topic is a long and complicated issue.

No, Turkey did not side with Israel. It aligned with those who would benefit and secure her borders. If Assad was still in power after this civil war, do you think he could’ve took the land that the Kurds took and protected by the U.S.?

This is a whole other discussion and it’s not as black and white as you make it out to be.