Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Raider 21]

Any evidence except for unilateral claims ?

LOL SU-24 squadrons are not even FMC status for the last 3-4 years. Majority fleet is grounded except for few flyable airframes that are not FMC and is awaiting for MK2 upgrade package.

Qatari F-15QAs Confirmed Behind Shootdown of Iranian Su-24s

CNN says Qatari and U.S. sources confirmed a F-15QA Ababil intercepted the two Iranian Su-24s “two minutes” away from Al Udeid Air Base and Ras Laffan

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Might not be the most accurate but that's the word of talk currently going about fighter jocks over there. I'd be surprised if any Iranian jets would even get airborne, they are sitting ducks for many pilots waiting to become aces there, not only counting the Kuwaiti Hornet driver's blunders.....

 

[side-winder]

So the F-15 kills were from a Kuwaiti F-18 in WVr range.

Fox 2 Habibi? @AeronautIR @side-winder @Raider 21



Also Pakistanis commenting as if this is a paicha during basant. Bo Kaata!

Makes sense why the pilots had literally no reaction time.

But a serious "dafuq" moment for the Kuwaiti pilot and his ground controller.

 

[Gripen9]

 

[Flotilla]

Lol thats a euro fighter escorting air refueling tanker most probably a330 mrtt. Notice the tail boom .

By the size of the body it is a 767, not 330 MRTT. So it is USAF again

 

[Bahrami]

 

[Psyko70]

Hope its some u boats or good ship destroyed

 

[RescueRanger]

Lots of off tangent discussions and very little on updates. The Analysts should post in another thread while this devastating war is still going on.

@Persian Gulf , @RescueRanger

I agree with Hembo.

 

[ToddE]

Qatari F-15QAs Confirmed Behind Shootdown of Iranian Su-24s

CNN says Qatari and U.S. sources confirmed a F-15QA Ababil intercepted the two Iranian Su-24s “two minutes” away from Al Udeid Air Base and Ras Laffan

theaviationist.com

Might not be the most accurate but that's the word of talk currently going about fighter jocks over there. I'd be surprised if any Iranian jets would even get airborne, they are sitting ducks for many pilots waiting to become aces there, not only counting the Kuwaiti Hornet driver's blunders.....

So basically no evidence exists like I said. Rest of the word gizmo means nothing because claim is unilateral, has ZERO evidence. Qatari under pressure to do something in response invented this story without checking that the entire fleet is not even FMC. Fools bought it.

 

[PakFactor]

Yeh arbay bhi full nailey hein…

Why do I get the feeling that once Prophet Jesus begins his descent, it'll be one of the Arabs to fire off a shoulder-fired Stinger missile?

 

[BrigSmart]

How US sinking of Iranian warship blew hole in Modi’s ‘guardian’ claims

India sees itself a security provider in the Indian Ocean. On Wednesday, it couldn't save even its own guest.

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India "guardian " of the Indian Ocean

A lesson that use of hyperbole always comes back to bite you. The Indian Navy definitely does not have the ability to guard the coasts of South Africa and Australia.

It is sad and unfortunate that the incident happened, especially the loss of lives of the Iranian sailors. My condolences and sympathies are with the families.

However, it is important to maintain perspective. The ship left India three days before the war started. Irrespective of the legality of the war and the fact that the IRIS Dena was completely outmatched, an enemy naval frigate is a legitimate target. Iran would also have tried to sink any American naval assets they could. When it was sunk, the ship was far from India's coast ,and probably trying to enter Sri Lankan territorial waters from the south to wait out the conflict and the Americans probably decided to take it out while it was still in international waters. The US Navy did not violate even Sri Lankan territorial waters, let aside Indian.

The Indian Navy had no obligation to protect a foreign naval vessel in the high seas. It would certainly have been against Indian national interest for the navy to have sailed south of Sri Lanka and a fought a naval battle against the US Navy to defend an Iranian naval vessel even if India had intelligence about what was going to happen. What happened is unfortunate, but no one from even the Iranian government has suggested India has any responsibility for the sad sinking of the ship and loss of life. In war, bad things happen.

 

[RescueRanger]

Following as the situation evolves is fine. What you're suggesting however is not likely to happen. The votes aren't there and the Vice President certainly isn't going to turn his back on his boss.

I'm not convinced we have any leaders capable of de-escalation. Who do you have in mind? Every last one of them I wouldn't trust to run a street corner hot dog cart (corndog for @RescueRanger ) much less de-escalate a war.

Truer words have never been said. The sit is far too dynamic. Oh and speaking of corndogs AZ_HighCountry in the distant future when you come to Islamabad im taking you to my fav korean Corn Dog spot:

 

[Gripen9]

Why do I get the feeling that once Prophet Jesus begins his descent, it'll be one of the Arabs to fire off a shoulder-fired Stinger missile?

I don't think so. They'll be running off, dropping whatever is in their hands

 

[RescueRanger]

I don't think so. They'll be running off, dropping whatever is in their hands

 

[maxpane]

Yes, Su-24s were shot down by F-15QAs scrambled out of Al Udeid. The same formation circled around to check for other bandits

Hows your father and your relatives ? Hope they are fine.
On topic what they were doing in that area isnt it too far from iran, for su 24s?

 

[ToddE]

US-Israeli Kurdish game is more about leverage in talks/deal than anything. Ground reality does not favor it.

https://amwaj.media/en/article/deep-dive-the-cias-kurdish-gambit-and-the-war-game-with-iran