Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[جوبا]

Sorry! it goes both ways...last year we were fighting India - where was KSA?

why so apologetic...they did not help us defend - why we would go defend them?

Did Pakistan really need help back then?
6-0 and IAF dropped another SU30 last week

 

[BeingHuman]

Wasn't there a missile/air strike between Iran and Pakistan some time back? I think the relations are somewhat less than cordial. If things go bad for Saudi Arabia, Pakistan is treaty bound to help KSA.

Not a thread to discuss but wasn’t the treaty bilateral? Did sauris involve in Afghanistan?

 

[SteppeWolff]

That was when I was 30. Now I'm 55. The world has moved on, and so should we.

The world has, they havent. As I said, either you are too naive or simply uninformed. The money from Gulf never stopped pouring into these extremist seminaries and associated groups.

 

[Aziqbal]

why the hell did Imam Khamenei not build the bomb or even a dirty bomb?

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry! it goes both ways...last year we were fighting India - where was KSA?

why so apologetic...they did not help us defend - why we would go defend them?

Iran thraad!

Please Get back on topic.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Zionists are having a meltdown about the Iranian Kheybar Shekan ballistic missile attacks on Occupied Palestine. How sweet!

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Conclusion?

China has probably never had a better chance of attacking Taiwain succesfully than now:

1. No US carriers are available in south China sea area.

2. US Ammunition and interceptor levels are low and non existent(at worst soon).
3.US military is preoccupied with the war against Iran and its ME infrastructure is damaged and will need years to restore back to full capacity.

If China waits for some more years to attack Taiwain,and it loses that ensuing war, its China's fault

Another example of non-Chinese people desperately wanting China to invade Taiwan, even though China doesn't seem the need for it.

 

[StrategicBear]

Looks like Trump is starting to realize he has no leverage over Iran?

I think Iran is holding back MASSIVELY now. If they want they can sink carriers, destroy Israeli desalination plants, but held back due to fearing enemy Nukes.

But now Iran can use that as a leverage to demand the Epstein people to stop this war, or risk further escalation. At one point Iran may need to test and build nukes for deterrence if they still don't abandon the talk of regime change or the practice of assassinating leaders.

 

[Watandar]

Because they chose development over confrontation with neighbours? Perhaps they have seen plenty of nations trying that and being unsuccessful.

GCC chose internal development alongwith collaboration with the West to undermine everyone around them. They have been the beneficiaries of all the wars and intrigues the West has engaged in the region going back 50 plus years. That was also the main flaw in the GCC approach, the fires they kept stoking in the neighborhood eventually reached their houses.

 

[HAIDER]

This is embarrassing from the Saudis , this is not how you address a fellow friend country. It’s pure arrogance by them. I think the Pakistanis need to make it crystal clear to Saudi u need this defence pact so behave or else!!!

Well, unfortunately, KSA has no well defined defence policy. Now, all GCC countries realize that all these foreign bases for ages have been to defend Israel. They are countering the Iranian missiles launched toward Israel. Same bases were used against Iran in 12 day war, but they have been avoided, and now they are counter as enemy post.

 

[SteppeWolff]

I don't know.

Wasn't the India flag available when you chose your account details some time back?

We have a serious infestation of Indian false-flaggers on our forum.

 

[hembo]

The world has, they havent. As I said, either you are too naive or simply uninformed. The money from Gulf never stopped pouring into these extremist seminaries and associated groups.

I stand corrected.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The real test of manliness would be to stop it forcefully instead of “asking” Mr Trump please stawwp.
But then we might have different definitions of manliness.

Ofcourse! But I wanted to remain realistic in my comment. This is the minimum they should be doing. War is only destroying middleeast, Iran and indirectly countries like Pakistan are going to be effected a lot.

 

[tsunset]

Iran gives ultimatum to Azerbaijan

 

[El Sidd]

Because they chose development over confrontation with neighbours? Perhaps they have seen plenty of nations trying that and being unsuccessful.

Much of history has proven proxy wars to be highly successful. If you look at my country, it got broken into 2 by such a process as well.

They are guilty of sin and provide US and Israel airbase to hit Iran.

So they thought having US as a security provider as better alternative to proxy warfare?

Minorities (Kurds, Arabs, Baluch) exist but are fragmented and isolated through geography. So, there is no large, unified group that Arab states can easily mobilize.

Iran’s geography helps prevent proxy building. Mountains in the west (Zagros). Deserts in central Iran. Strong border control.

So Arab Monarchies rely on economic influence and relationships with USA and covert relationship with Israel to get their dirty business done.

In short, they dont have the capability and means to do it themselves.

True and Iranian government clamps down on dissent rather violently. Apart from the US presence, there's no threat to Iran from any of her neighbours but all neighbours face direct threat from Iran, agree?

People on PDF use "ferment" far too frequently instead of the intended "foment ". Makes me wonder.

What would be correct? I didn't mean to upset Oxford with it.