Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[HAIDER]

I stand corrected.

UAE-India-Israel used and funded BLA and Baluchistan separatist both sides of borders.

 

[KingQamaR]

This is a U.S. colony, they cannot choose otherwise.
I've been studying there 21-22 years ago, U.S. marines were roaming freely in the country and one-third of teachers in my university were Americans.

A wakeup call to all countries being protected by United States of America….

 

[El Sidd]

They prefer to live on planet earth more than in paradise.

So another sin to their credit?

 

[Arash]

Iran gives ultimatum to Azerbaijan

If AzerBoojan does assist the attack against Iran, then bomb Baku's Aliyev palace.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

We have a serious infestation of Indian false-flaggers on our forum.

after Ramzan is over, watch The RIP (the new MAtt Damon movie)

 

[StrategicBear]

I read reports that Iran has stopped the closure of Hormuz Strait and only targets US and Israeli-linked ships. If this is true, Iran's leverage to keep oil prices high seems somewhat diminished?

 

[SteppeWolff]

Apart from the US presence, there's no threat to Iran from any of her neighbours but all neighbours face direct threat from Iran, agree?

Do we face a direct threat in Pakistan from Iran? Apart from the Baloch issue, no, and I always have been critical of Iran over this.

 

[Meengla]

Wasn't there a missile/air strike between Iran and Pakistan some time back? I think the relations are somewhat less than cordial. If things go bad for Saudi Arabia, Pakistan is treaty bound to help KSA.

I believe there were the 'rogue' elements in Iran which launched the missiles into Pakistan and the next day Pakistan retaliated in an arranged tit for tat. Iran is not an integrated security state like Pakistan has. The two countries' threat perceptions are very different due to their geography and geopolitics and thus have evolved differently. No Pakistani has ever not noticed where the real threat lies: To Pakistan's east--in India.

Having said that, I believe the Iran-Pakistan relations are almost back to the Shah of Iran era. You may want to follow the American analyst Patrick Henningsen, who seems connected with the Iran establishment, to understand Pakistan-Iran relations, which are kept on low key.

As to what Pakistan will do in this conflict, it would hugely surprise me if Pakistan gets sucked majorly on Saudi Arabia's side due to that agreement. The language of that agreement doesn't automatically make Pakistan to launch missiles on Iran. At most, air defenses for Saudi Arabia but even that's a long shot. Iranians, Saudis, Turks, and Pakistanis really know it is Israel who is the ultimate enemy.

 

[RocketLaw]

Iranian crisis becomes embarrassment for US military that can’t protect anyone – MidEast analyst

“The US has embarrassed itself in front of the entire world. Everybody now knows that the Americans are no protectors,” says Middle East affairs expert Mais Kurbanov.

“They used to mock Russia when Ukraine scored some hits, acting as if they are invincible. Now Iran keeps pummeling them, and US ships have to flee two thousand kilometers into the ocean to escape Iranian missiles.”



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[Hamartia Antidote]

Conclusion?

China has probably never had a better chance of attacking Taiwain succesfully than now:

1. No US carriers are available in south China sea area.

What? Why do you think we are short of carriers?


The USS George Washington is near Japan.

That's only the ones deployed.

The U.S. Navy’s doctrine assumes:

• 2–4 carriers deployed normally
• 1–3 carriers in workups / training
• 2–3 carriers in overhaul or stand-down

We have others not deployed sitting at docks waiting...like the USS Carl Vinson and USS Theodore Roosevelt.

2. US Ammunition and interceptor levels are low and non existent(at worst soon).

The US Navy has nearby re-arming bases at Diego Garcia and Crete.

 

[Master Chief]

Much of history has proven proxy wars to be highly successful. If you look at my country, it got broken into 2 by such a process as well.

So they thought having US as a security provider as better alternative to proxy warfare?

True and Iranian government clamps down on dissent rather violently. Apart from the US presence, there's no threat to Iran from any of her neighbours but all neighbours face direct threat from Iran, agree?

What would be correct? I didn't mean to upset Oxford with it.

1. Thank you for reminding our secular Indian guests that proxy war via terrorist groups is a habit mastered by Delhi, lest they should lecture others on it.

2. "Ferment" refers to a chemical process by which your whisky gets produced. "Foment" is the word you Cambridge types were looking for.

 

[EugeneP]

I believe there were the 'rogue' elements in Iran which launched the missiles into Pakistan

Is there any evidence for that? That would be a pretty bad situation if random groups can launch missiles to foreign countries from a functioning State.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I believe there were the 'rogue' elements in Iran which launched the missiles into Pakistan and the next day Pakistan retaliated in an arranged tit for tat. Iran is not an integrated security state like Pakistan has. The two countries' threat perceptions are very different due to their geography and geopolitics and thus have evolved differently. No Pakistani has ever not noticed where the real threat lies: To Pakistan's east--in India.

Having said that, I believe the Iran-Pakistan relations are almost back to the Shah of Iran era. You may want to follow the American analyst Patrick Henningsen, who seems connected with the Iran establishment, to understand Pakistan-Iran relations, which are kept on low key.

As to what Pakistan will do in this conflict, it would hugely surprise me if Pakistan gets sucked majorly on Saudi Arabia's side due to that agreement. The language of that agreement doesn't automatically make Pakistan to launch missiles on Iran. At most, air defenses for Saudi Arabia but even that's a long shot. Iranians, Saudis, Turks, and Pakistanis really know it is Israel who is the ultimate enemy.

I have not seen, this poster (to whom you are replying) making any sane, friendly, unbiased, non-hostile, balanced, deep, and incisive post

I have not, have you?

 

[KingQamaR]

Well, unfortunately, KSA has no well defined defence policy. Now, all GCC countries realize that all these foreign bases for ages have been to defend Israel. They are countering the missile Iran launched toward Israel. Same bases were used against Iran in 12 day war, but they have been avoided, and now they are counter as enemy post.

Weird they’re (SAUDIS) creating this narrative that we need them. They literally nothing other than finance. They want Pakistanis to side with them on all there self made problems yet these people don’t care for Pakistanis problems. When it comes to India?

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Wasn't there a missile/air strike between Iran and Pakistan some time back? I think the relations are somewhat less than cordial. If things go bad for Saudi Arabia, Pakistan is treaty bound to help KSA.

The bizarre incident happened on 16 January 2024, and Pakistan retaliated with a larger Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar on 18 January 2024.

This skirmish lead to some understanding between the two countries as well as expanding their military and security communications.

The following year, in May 2025 Iran supported Pakistan against India, and in June 2025, Pakistan fully supported Iran against Zion.

Since January 2024, I've only seen Iran-Pakistan relationships improve and increase, and Pakistan feels Iran just needs some peacetime to fully rebuild it's military that could incorporate a lot of Chinese tech.