Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

The "analysis" claimed the numbers of planes tabulated are "enough". For what, exactly, was the quesiton I posed.

Clearly, they are NOT "enough" to force a surrender from Iran.

More than enough to systematically destroy the chosen targets one by one. Which is exactly what is occurring. Iran is slowly but surely being taken apart.

 

[StrategicBear]

I wasn't aware there were any rules to begin with.

It's Iran that self-imposed the rules in the first place. As I've stated on this thread before, I'm in favor of Preemptive Strikes to take out as many enemy targets as possible before their Air Power can start to diminish Iran's missile launching ability, but Iran just waited for the enemy to assassinate Khamenei before making a move.

If Iran will be fighting a war of this scale then it might as well control the start of the war to win some early victories but they are so conservative not take such bold action. Iran won't be seen as an aggressor if it started first, because the casus belli is there : "The US brought many military forces surrounding my country threatening regime change, so under the UN Charter we are allowed to take action to remove the threat at an opportune timing"

 

[Falcon29]

Breaking | Israeli Army: We will conduct a military exercise today in the Golan Heights

 

[StrategicBear]

More than enough to systematically destroy the chosen targets one by one. Which is exactly what is occurring. Iran is slowly but surely being taken apart.

Destroyed launchers can be replaced. More missiles and drones can be made by Iran at many underground factories.

Unless if you send boots on the ground to capture the territory, there is no way to force surrender just from bombing from the air on a country 3 times the size of Iraq with a population of 90+ million. Iran is too big of a country to win just from bombing. The US will run out of missiles and PGMs before Iran runs out of drones.

 

[EugeneP]

The end of the war is not up to America or Trump. It won't end until Iran gets its proper revenge against Trump and Satanyahu.

And Iran's missiles and drones are far from depleted; they're just saving it and keeping it hidden underground. The main force right now is drones. Iran is a large country bigger than Iraq with a mountainous terrain, therefore the US couldn't settle this all from the air. It's impossible. They'd need boots on the ground to deny territory needed to make more drones.

This war is just starting.

1.How can Iran continue the war if U.S. & Israel pullback after missile & drone threat is over?
2. Missile & Drone attacks will eventually stop either because they run out or can't launch due to lack of infrastructure. How can launches happen when there is no electricity, communication, fuel or transport?

 

[Michael]

I can't read Chinese, that's why I asked.

The term "大年" (Big Year) has many meanings in Chinese. Here, it likely means "a very important year." However, the official press release used quotation marks around the word. This usage usually indicates a specific, special meaning.

However, this is an official press release, and I am not in a position to over-interpret it. Please interpret it on your own.

 

[Kyussis]

Doesn't look AI. Grok the bastard also says it's not AI and it's from March 05, 2026.

This is from True Promise 2 back in October of 2024.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It looks like Iran's air force and navy have failed to do even minor carnage to the US, and they are gloating how to obliterate the Iranian navy.



The missile force of the IRGC is the only credible deterrence remaining.

 

[Hayabusa]

So I guess the strikes were not as successful as claimed by Trump and the US administration in the aftermath of Jun-25. There could be more than what was mentioned. Probably a chance that they are still enriching uranium.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Destroyed launchers can be replaced. More missiles and drones can be made by Iran at many underground factories.

Unless if you send boots on the ground to capture the territory, there is no way to force surrender just from bombing from the air on a country 3 times the size of Iraq with a population of 90+ million. Iran is too big of a country to win just from bombing. The US will run out of missiles and PGMs before Iran runs out of drones.

I won't disagree with any of that. The point I'm making is the US can destroy every key target it wants. Power generation, oil & gas fields, telecommunications, etc.

 

[StrategicBear]

1.How can Iran continue the war if U.S. & Israel pullback after missile & drone threat is over?
2. Missile & Drone attacks will eventually stop either because they run out or can't launch due to lack of infrastructure. How can launches happen when there is no electricity, communication, fuel or transport?

1. They still have proxies like Hezbollah, Iraqi Resistance and Houthis. And building drones and launching them doesn't require as much infrastructure as missiles, so they'll switch to suicide drones as the main force, perhaps new models with jet engines or turboprop around MACH 1 to make it faster than the usual Shaheds.

2. Infrastructure can be rebuilt. Unless the US is willing to bomb every single day or week to prevent the rebuilding of the infrastructure, you'd eventually need to put boots on the ground to capture territory to deny Iran's ability to produce and rebuild things.

3. And finally, no war can be won just from aerial bombings only on a country the size of Iran. The US intelligence just assumed that they have taken out most of Iran's missiles and launchers, but satelite surveillance and HUMINT can only go so far to find out the real scale of Iran's assets.

Not everything can be discovered just from satelite date as most of the action happens deep underground as Iran has 30+ missile cities and perhaps dozens more underground sites for all sorts of weapons production needs the US still don't know about.

I trust Iranian officials when they said they "prepared for a long war" because Iran is close to Russia and China so they would have gotten sound advice from them on hardening shelters, dispersal, etc , and those underground mountain bases are definitely secure from US bunker busters now, with means to get out from there via tunneling even if entrances are entombed by US bombings.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You are correct. B-52s are employing AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Stand-off Missiles, likely launching from over Iraq.

Using an 8 missile revolver internally and the 2 tri-packs under the wings

 

[LeonBlack08]

 

[PakAl]

 

[StrategicBear]

I won't disagree with any of that. The point I'm making is the US can destroy every key target it wants. Power generation, oil & gas fields, telecommunications, etc.

So far power plants in Iran have not been targeted yet. Because Iran can target Israeli power plants and desalination plants too if US goes after Iran's critical infrastructure.

The fact that Iran hasn't launched missiles on Dimona Nuclear Facility yet shows that the enemy is deterred from destroying Iran's critical infrastructure for fear of Iran doing the same not only to Israel but to all Arab countries' desalination plants.

So if the US destroys Iran's infrastructure, say goodbye to all oil refineries and desalination plants all over the region as Iran will go scorched earth and punish all Arab countries who host US Bases too. So while Iran may not win they can take down everyone with them as part of their revenge for the martyrdom of Khamenei.