Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[UKBengali]

Many more are now paralysed or vegetables for life.

 

[tsunset]

I'm starting to believe that Qaani is an American/Israeli scientific experiment on immortality

 

[Persian Gulf]

I agree with your opinion, thank you for stating it.

whether Iran can achieve that deterrence, is questionable. but I understand why they think that is the only way out of this situation.

 

[KingQamaR]

how long will China watch one of its principal sources of cheap oil so crucial for the double digit growth and industrial effort get confiscated for at least a generation by its main competitor, is today's billion-dollar geopolitical question. If there isn't *one* strategic analyst within their *entire* state apparatus able to tell the higher echelons to effing move from their pathetic spectating posture and act like a nation truly contemplating a global superpower role, then they deserve to remain a sub-par regional actor for the remainder of the century. Part of a nation becoming a superpower is to boast a number of true visionary architects of foreign policy.

The US had Brzezinski, Kissinger, the USSR had Gromyko. China, by its current lack of political courage and initiative, and assuming that catastrophe of a non-stance remains their posture for the whole duration of the war and god forbid Iran breaks as a country, shall end up watching the consequences that will reverberate and will be taught as their single biggest strategic blunder of the century in every of their foreign policy papers, academies and circles published for 50 years to come. Akin to the 2003 Invasion of Irak by Bush Jr. I honestly don't feel i'm overstating this.

And "the need to balance cordial relations with the GCC" does not stand the test of the current existential conflict for Iran. Prioritizing them is one thing, dropping Iran so casually as some sort of toxic asset is completely another.

The GCC are and will remain core US satellites at the end of the day, even if the KSA has timidly ventured a bit further away relative to the other micro-states, but will listen to America whenever they throw a tantrum at a given geopolitical juncture. There will always be a hard limit to what they can do with them, same with Turkey on NATO's side. IF they can't see it, they aren't even worthy to be considered serious players at scale, period.

PS : thanks for the warm welcome @Persian Gulf and @shapurzolaktaf , + all others who reacted positively. We're all in this together even from outside. I truly appreciate.

 

[hussain0216]

That is a question for the parties to the conflict to answer.

The question has already been answered

The U.S has murdered children to fight a war for the Zionists, they are utterly monstrous

Now is not the time for negotiations, because the U.S will just come back for more and more conflict, because the US is little more than puppets for the Zionists

Iran will suffer, but Iran is already suffering

So now would be the time to harm Americas allies, destroy the kinglets and try to push the U.S out of the region

The consequences of harm to the world economy is the fault of Israel and the U.S and Iran should push this to the end to really harm the U.S

 

[Flotilla]

Yes, but there was never such a degree of open conflict before, so those talks did avert them for many years. Even now, earliest possible cessation of hostilities is important. It is not in either side's interest to let this go on for long.



You are the Iranian, you tell me, please.

The goal of Irán It is not to win this Battle. Irán should keep spreading fire and hate until Trump's impeachment. That is the only way to stop americans and therefore israelis.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Dear @Hassan Al-Somal All other members post are visible but your post not visilble (Almost all except few youtube link you shared). @Mr X Is it only me or someone else also having similar experience. Any idea why this happens?

 

[RescueRanger]

Once the US bombers ramp up, developments are likely to come at a more rapid pace. Hopefully, it will cut short the civilian toll and suffering, by enabling early negotitations.

Lets not make "cheng" to be soke magical panacea that will end the war in a humane fashion. Ive been a proponent of healthy pragmatism on this thread and caught flak for it but I will challenge your point above as being factually bankrupt.

The use of mass bombings and explosive weapons in populated areas has a direct, well-documented link to high civilian casualties, with studies indicating that 90% of those killed or injured in such attacks are civilians.

Key findings on the link between mass bombings and civilian casualties include:

• Disproportionate Harm: When explosive weapons are used in towns and cities, civilians make up over 90% of the casualties, compared to around 25% when used in less populated areas.
• Surge in Fatalities: In 2022, there was an over 80% surge in global civilian casualties from explosive weapons, driven by conflicts in Ukraine, Ethiopia, Myanmar, and Somalia. In 2023, a further 122% rise in global civilian fatalities was recorded.
• Types of Attacks: Both state actors (using missiles and aerial bombs) and non-state actors (using IEDs) cause significant harm, though non-state actors often have a higher ratio of civilian victims.
• Long-Term Impact: Beyond immediate deaths, mass bombings destroy essential infrastructure—hospitals, schools, and water systems—causing indirect, long-term suffering and hindering access to medical care.
• Major Conflicts: In the last decade, the highest number of civilian deaths and injuries from explosive weapons occurred in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen.

Urban Warfare and Displacement
The use of heavy explosive weapons in cities is a primary driver of global displacement, forcing families from their homes and preventing their return. In areas like Gaza, for instance, nearly 70% of verified deaths have been reported as women and children.

Weapon Types
Aerial Bombardment/Shelling: In the Syrian conflict, these were identified as primary causes of death for women and children.

"Double-tap" Attacks: Attacks that strike a target, then wait for emergency services to arrive before striking again, which increases the death toll among responders and civilians.

International Law and Perspective
The use of explosive weapons in populated areas is increasingly scrutinized under international humanitarian law, with calls for new standards to prohibit the use of heavy, wide-area weapons in cities.

Sources:

Civilian casualties in the explosive weapons in populated areas: a decade in review (2015–2024) - AOAV

This report chronicles the devastating impact of explosive weapons on civilians worldwide from 2015 to 2024, examining how airstrikes, shelling, and improvised bombs have disproportionately harmed civilians and analysing international policy responses aimed at curbing this human tragedy.

aoav.org.uk

INEW ~ PRESS RELEASE: Dying under bombs and shells: New report finds escalation in armed conflicts worldwide causes over 80 percent surge in civilian casualties from explosive weapons

The International Network on Explosive Weapons (INEW) is an NGO partnership calling for immediate action to prevent human suffering from the use of explosive weapons in populated areas.

www.inew.org

From Guernica to Gaza, Mass Killers Have Been Above It All – IDN-InDepthNews

indepthnews.net

122% rise in global civilian fatalities from explosive weapons in 2023: a year of harm reviewed - World

Analysis in English on World and 5 other countries about Mine Action; published on 9 Jan 2024 by AOAV

reliefweb.int

Ninety Per Cent of War-Time Casualties Are Civilians, Speakers Stress, Pressing Security Council to Fulfil Responsibility, Protect Innocent People in Conflicts | UN Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

With civilians accounting for nearly 90 per cent of war-time casualties and humanitarians threatened with arrest for providing aid to “the enemy”, the Security Council simply must do more to ensure the protection of innocent people caught amid the conflicts raging around the world, experts from...

press.un.org

 

[Jugantor]

I'm starting to believe that Qaani is an American/Israeli scientific experiment on immortality

Is he really in Israel?

 

[RescueRanger]

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Dear @Hassan Al-Somal All other members post are visible but your post not visilble (Almost all except few youtube link you shared). @Mr X Is it only me or someone else also having similar experience. Any idea why this happens?

This is a problem with your ISP blocking telegram embed not a problem with the website.

 

[StrategicBear]

Iranian Missiles should target the Ammonia Plant in the Negev Desert as payback for the black smoke burning in Tehran due to their attacks on Iranian oil infrastructure. Also blow up the Intel chip plants and desalination plants.

 

[Michael]

What I mean is that there are plenty of non-kinetic ways in which China can help Iran today, under the guise of "humanitarian aid" which the US does plenty of when projecting forces. I am obviously not expecting direct ,frontal military intervention with Chinese J-11 squadrons litteraly flying in the face of IAF of USN jets, this is not Call of Duty and I understand China has indeed zero incentive or benefit in starting a hot war over Iran , this is not that kind of relationship and such action would be nonsensical. They can send in a solid flotilla including air defense ships to the shores of the Persian Gulf or in the immediate vicinity of the Indian Ocean, all of that is feasible without entering in direct contact with US/Israeli operation but could tacitly diminish their margin for maneuver operationnally while providing crucial intel to any remaining Iranian air-defense asset or missile forces moving around with EW data, create jamming bubbles in crucial corridors and other ECM to passively disrupt and degrade PGM efficiency etc... What I find deplorable is that total visible lack of any indication of any of these passive , low-cost and low-risk initiatives that do not even imply physical entanglement with US/Israeli forces over Iran as it is only an air campagin so far. It indicates imho a shocking level of strategic shortsightedness on the part of the PRC that I certainly did not expect at the level.

China does not need to use the guise of "humanitarianism." In fact, a fleet consisting of a Type 052D destroyer, a Type 054A frigate, and a Type 903A replenishment ship has been active in the relevant waters. Meanwhile, the oceanographic research vessel "Dayang Yihao" and the space monitoring ship "Liaowang Yihao" have also been operating in the area.

Chinese satellites have also been closely monitoring the situation in the region.

As for whether China has shared intelligence information with Iran, that remains unknown.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

حَسْبُنَا اللّٰہُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَکِیْلُ

 

[RescueRanger]

Just stones. But likely to be increased.

Its not stones it was an explosive. That is sepctra coated glass so a small edplosive is like a fart in the wind.

Police search for perpetrators after explosion damages entrance of U.S. Embassy in Oslo

It was unclear what caused the blast, and no one has been arrested, police said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran's answer to Israel+US massive missile shield: cluster munitions

these seem to be the only weapon consistently penetrating Israeli defences

Iran will need to fire 20+ missiles per day for 1-2 more weeks to start to deplete Israeli interceptor stockpiles