Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Shags101 said:
Naa I get the last laugh @Meengla i don’t pay for gas 😆 but cost of goods are definitely going to go up shortly I let’s sets melania will donate her 28 million dollar check to help the needy
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I don't know why you brought me to this discussion. But.. okay, about a week ago, I paid $2.86 for a Gallon (US Gallon) which was a good 40 cents before the last price check 1-2 weeks ago. Me and wife, barely leave the house except for short drives to restaurants and stores and gas in our respective tanks lasts literally 6-8 weeks+
However, inflation was already bad before this war and if this doesn't stop soon then the so-called strategic reserves of oil to be released won't help much. The MAGA around me only understand the wallets getting smaller.
 
vizier said:
Hitting buildings wont do much. But hitting data centers of a bank for example if not replicated yet to a secure area would be a huge loss. They would have already started the data replication process by now though.
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Their main focus seems blind the enemy, now old Kamazaki flying in the region at will.............seems they worked alot before this Israeli war.
 
Meengla said:
I don't know why you brought me to this discussion. But.. okay, about a week ago, I paid $2.86 for a Gallon (US Gallon) which was a good 40 cents before the last price check 1-2 weeks ago. Me and wife, barely leave the house except for short drives to restaurants and stores and gas in our respective tanks lasts literally 6-8 weeks+
However, inflation was already bad before this war and if this doesn't stop soon then the so-called strategic reserves of oil to be released won't help much. The MAGA around me only understand the wallets getting smaller.
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Because you enjoyed my post 😂 seriously I honestly don’t go out much wife works kids are out ignore me as kids do but I’m grateful that they aren’t old enough to drive yet 2 more years 1 more year
 
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Now if the Iranian satellite communication is gone the spy sat pictures of Russia and China should be correlated together to get a precise picture and after hit data should be analysed as well. There can be moles in one or both of the suppliers. It is not a trust issue but since it is war time and everything is at stake for isreal-usa they will use every bargaining chip to supply false target data to Iran in return of some incentives to respective countries. You dont give a blank cheque to whom you do business with no matter how established the relations are. So it is a business issue and these countries will understand it in my opinion.

Best would be mounting the satcom antenna inside Russias eastern areas where Ukraine cant hit or better in China and correlate Iranian spy satellite pictures with Russian-Chinese ones to get precise target info. Ofcourse they can destroy Iranian satellite but in that case debris can hit several usa spy sats over Ukraine as well. they will claim Russian S500 but it will be debris of Iranian spy satellite ofcourse. So they wont decide to destroy the Iranian satellite easily.
 
RocketLaw said:
Start war
* Give 5 different reasons for war
* 80% disapproval
* Immediately blow up little girls school surrendering all moral high ground
* Kill leadership which is immediately replaced by more radical leadership
* Declare victory
* Have no contingency plan for closing the straits of Hormuz
* Have no clear victory conditions
* Gas prices skyrocket
* Economy craters
* Service members killed, taxes wasted, bases blown up, no material gain for the American public
* Continue declaring victory

Worst war ever conducted

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You forgot
-have your idiotic frat boy Nazi tatted department of war leader brag about murdering Iranians and signaling genocidal intent. Thereby surrendering any shred of moral credibility.
 
HAIDER said:
Their main focus seems blind the enemy, now old Kamazaki flying in the region at will.............seems they worked alot before this Israeli war.
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A little off topic but the entire world should fear a nightmare of large numbers of cheap Kamikaze drones crossing international borders...
I should GTFO to some Pacific island before SHTF!
 
Immortals said:
Depends how many interceptors they have and how many interceptors they spend per missiles.

Some videos they are launching 6+ interceptors. That’s not sustainable and can’t be used on 200 missiles that’s over 1200 interceptors. Zero chance they have that many. I’d guess in low hundreds maximum.




Iron dome can be replenished and the interceptor is cheap (25-75K). It’s basically an artillery shell with a small booster attached to it and a guidance seeker.

Hamas fired 5000+ rockets in a week and couldn’t deplete the reserves. The old Hezbollah could, but it’s been weakened a lot since 2024
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You don't need to deplete the reserves because they aren't going to deploy them all. They will commence on a ground invasion instead + carpet bomb enemy territory to disable launching capacity.

Hamas did successfully overwhelm Iron Dome layered defense in both May 2021 and October 2023 conflicts until Gaza was rapidly carpet bombed and Israeli forces invaded two days later. There's plenty of rockets in Gaza there wasn't a chance to deploy them.

The purpose of iron Dome is to decrease costs. They will not dip through reserves except to protect Tel Aviv area. Other areas they will just allow smaller shorter range rockets to go through while commencing on a ground invasion. The cost goes up at that point and Iron Dome served its purpose to decrease cost.

Hezbollah has capacity to do same 100 rocket barrage on northern areas in Israel on daily basis. It guarantees 20% of rockets get through if not more. Because the iron Dome is spread out evenly across country except in Tel Aviv + critical infrastructure and military bases.

The reason Hezbollah doesn't do it every night is because Israel targets Lebanese civilians in response and threatens to target Lebanese state infrastructure. Because material cost for Israel goes up.

And Israelis want to set precedent that they'll murder civilians or target critical infrastructure in other nation if their material cost goes up.

In future wars with Israel, with any nation or party, they have to have a solution for that Israeli strategy to control escalation dominance.

Hamas did not need to this to this Israeli attempt for escalation dominance which worked in Gaza's favor many times despite being risky as Israel commenced on two ground invasions of Gaza in 2008 and 2014, then didn't after that. It worked well up to 2023. That's the strategy Hezbollah seems to be slowly adopting. All Hezbollah needs to do is not carry out Toofan Al-Aqsa like military reprisal.

However Israel is playing a card of targeting Lebanese government infrastructure and Hezbollah wants to keep Lebanese government happy, which is why they've had to constrain themselves a bit as opposed to Hamas which was the government in Gaza and was under attack anyway so it didn't matter
 
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