Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Cicero said:
So they are censoring hospital records and funerals? You can't keep that secret for very long. So they don't censor when 2 people died last night but all these hundreds of dead are just being kept a secret? The reality is you're not going to get mass casualty events if your only shooting 15-20 missiles a day at a 1-2 missile salvo rate.
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You are correct

They are only fooling themselves. Deaths aside, we would have a lot more leaks of the destruction in Israel even with strict censorship. Israel has so far did well in intercepting Irans ballistic missiles. Things can change when stockpiles get depleted. It’s hard to cause casualties when very few made direct impacts and people are in bunkers.
 
Immortals said:
Rumor is Larijani wanted a more moderate Supreme Leader and didn’t support Mojtaba.

Also I think his own hubris got to him thinking that having his daughter in America meant something and the Americans NEEDED him.

Too intelligent for his own good
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If anything, inside Iran, larijani clan is known as having deep ties with British Intel. Remember the Hand scandal from 1997 with MI6? Khatami openly talked about it back then but went quite over the years.

Agreed with too intelligent for his own good part.
 
Where is pezeshkian? What had he been doing throughout this war. He was very involved in iran until protests where he took a backline role. Now he just showed up for a deescalatory statement that got thrown out the window a couple hours later and whilst everyone else is dying he Remains alive. I think he is an isreali asset
 
Ali_Baba said:
I think Kharg Island is possibly a red herring, the real target being possibly Chabahar port, with a view of moving upwards to try and re-open the strait of Hormuz. Misdirection has been (with all wars) part of the art of war. Something for Iran to

The assassination of the Intelligence Chief is part of this misdirection the USA is trying to create in Iran, to help with its operations.

A perfect example of the senior leaders in Iran, not seeing the value in themselves to help Iran as being an attribute of their well being to do their jobs!!!!.

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These assassinations look like as inside job, and "Israel" is just claiming the work of its agents inside Iran. The Iran govt needs to find high moles in its midst.
 
Emirzad said:
Worlds most secretive government that honey trapped hyper powers presidents and top most secretaries without CIA or FBI knowing ? sure they can censor events happening in their own capital right ?



They can, otherwise why the total media censorship? why official gag order, police arrests and heavy fines?



They are showing very less numbers. Not sure whats hard to understand here. They have a perception about them which they want to maintain at all costs, proven by media blackout and gag order over leaks. Why would they do it otherwise if they are so clean about reporting damage and casualties as you are trying to make them ?

Also nobody knows the actual casualty numbers but 20 for 4000 hospitalized injured and thousands of buildings damaged makes no sense. There has never been such cases before.



Thats ~250-300 strikes or around 0.5 million lbs of warhead/debris, also remember the ABM shield is almost gone. Clusters are impossible to intercept, whatever little footage of last 1 week of waves we got, showed no mass interceptions. ~4000 injured means that even if we go by ~5% deaths for 100 hospitalized injuries will number around 200 not 20.
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So you believe their injured numbers but not their deaths> They don't censor the injured but they do with deaths. I think this is just wishful thinking. Of the 250-300 strikes how many actually make impacts? And of those impacts how many are in places where humans are located? I'm well aware that their is a censor on on videos especially on military installations, but if their was this widespread destruction we would definitely have more footage of it. Iran literally has had the internet cut off for two weeks and we are seeing videos everyday of the bombs and aftermath. I think we just need to face facts that Iran is probably giving about 1% of the damage it is receiving. As I've said previously its main leverage is that it doesn't need much to grind energy shipments to a halt and reduce economic activity through drones and occasional missile launches. But if you're talking about exacting like for like damage, its not even close. It's time to accept that and not tell ourselves lies that their are secretly hundreds death and widespread destruction.
 
dbc said:
was it unprovoked?
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Totally unprovoked! Unrelated and without ANY proven connection. Hamas did what they did because of Abraham Accords and they said so... the culprits? There colonizer and ones giving them free pass.... apparently even their genocide didn't budge much less provoke the moraly dead epstained creatures.
This for the collective who vocally stands against collective punishment against civilians and civilian infrastructure. The ruse of first hospital(it must be a misfired rocket from hamas) to literally bombing almost every single one of them... that text book followed on the school attack in the opening salvo on Iran(they must have bombed it)

Enough with the virtue signaling!

dbc said:
Think back to October 2023, I'm not arguing if Iran's actions were right or wrong. Iran backed Hamas did kick start this Israeli response.
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How exactly did Iran help Hamas? Provide your proof.

Hamas uses improvised local plumbing for the most part...


dbc said:
Let's put morality aside for a minute, I'd totally understand if the Iranian regime fulfilled its obligations to its own people before involving itself in becoming the champion for Palestine and Gaza.
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Hmm... interesting... when their own money and assets are frozen. When their infrastructure is targeted. Their best minds poached or murdered... economy sanctioned... for simply not submitting to an implanted parasite. One that cannot be questioned on its military... funded by the collective... the largest recipient of aid and military equipment from the US ever! Provided diplomatic cover, its impunity catered and paid for by the American tax payer even its peace paid... to both Egypt and Jordan. It's victims dispersed all around the globe and one showing any remorse, aligning or helping its aggrieved, bombed. They can have nukes... but no one else can in the middle east, least the largest state, amongst the oldest civilization states and holder of regional power organically!
not only dissuaded, stopped...! from naturally holding its space to cater for pretending abominations who landed as victims of European programs and genocides.
 
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Iranian drones attacked the US Embassy's logistics support headquarters in Baghdad and the upper floors of the Royal Tulip Al Rasheed Hotel. New footage has also emerged of another US air defense system, the C-RAM, targeting Iranian kamikaze drones in Baghdad. Judging by the video, not all drones were shot down.

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C-RAM Air Defense Technical Information
Weapon Type: M61A1 6-Barrel Automatic Cannon

Caliber - 20 mm
Cartridge - 20×102 mm
Barrel Length, Calibers - 76
Automatic Operation - External Drive
Rate of Fire, RPM - 3000
Projectile Weight, kg - 0.102
Muzzle Velocity, m/s - 1036

Maximum Elevation Angle, deg. — 85, minimum — -28
Vertical aiming speed, deg/s — 92
Horizontal aiming speed, deg/s — 126
Reaction time, s 0.0125
Effective firing range — 1.47 km
Altitude reach — 1,470 meters
Projectile type — OFZ, Z-T, BPS-T
Weight of the gun — 5.42 tons
 
mangekyo said:
Netanyahu is dead. The rumors are true

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Someone needs to take him out. I swear I am getting sick of this shit pig face!
 
Death of Larijani, many other IRGC commanders...
Death of head of intelligence today...


That is what happens when you appoint mullah to the position of head of intelligence/counterintelligence instead of professional spy.

Sycophants instead of men of action...

Who is responsible for fucking stupid situation? They dug a grave for themselves and their country
 
Bengal71 said:
3 trucks? What do you need 3 trucks for, even 3 cars for? If you must have 3, at least get a truck, a corolla and sports car, why same type?
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Fair questions.

I use mine to haul a lot of things so there is the utility value there. When Mrs. AZ bought her 2008, we opted to keep the 99 as it had 200K-miles at the time and the trade-in value would have been negligible. We opted to keep it in case one of our primary vehicles needed to go to the shop. Therefore, we wouldn't be without a vehicle.

Just because we have trucks, don't assume they are "trucks". Some of the equipment packages that come with them rival any standard car. Also, Mrs. AZ is into mountain biking so she uses hers for carrying the bikes to the mountains, etc.

Absolutely love the Corolla. During my travel days, that was always one of my top rental choices. The 4Runner and Rav4 hybrid are also high on the list.

Sports car? I can't afford the tickets that come with them.
 
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