Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

if true this event could change the dynamics of modern warfare, us/isreal airforces no more the dominant airforces as they claim to be, this will have far reaching implications, probably the reason why chinese are speed running their 6th gen platform, as 5th gen is perhaps getting obsolete.

Really?

One aircraft allegedly hit out of how many thousands of sorties to date?

 

[mythbuster]

Not stealth is you can see the aircraft during a daylight attack.

@SolarWarden has a very plausible theory.

That's a stupid theory , when you have other options no one in his sane mind will use F 35 for gun run....

 

[Cash gk]

 

[Master Chief]

Actually.

The Air Shield for the US and Israel always relies on the AWACS and JSTARS capabilities the US had, which come in a package of Satellite, E-3D/E-2D/RAAF E-7, E-8, combined with a ground-based control station and AEGIS on the Ocean.

If you are taking out the Saudi Ground station, the Air Force can pick it up with either Aerial Mobile Command (or TACAMO, which is a bunch of EC-130E) or the E-4s if push comes to shove

Boeing E-4 - Wikipedia

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Lockheed EC-130 - Wikipedia

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And that's before we start talking about SIGINT and IMGINT

Unless you can challenge the US in the Air and Space, you can't take out the USAF Early Warning Capability.

Thanks. No disputing all that. Ground radar is still a legitimate target. I am merely clarifying what the difference is between neutrality and hostility during a conflict, in a political sense.

 

[Goenitz]

Midget submarines are useless against warships. There are hundreds of asw assets that will spot them from miles away before they can get in range. They can be useful in striking merchants but they are likely all destroyed by now

For laying mines and perhaps launching some commando units across the gulf.

 

[RescueRanger]

Islamabad has so far presented itself as a "neutral" party in the conflict, condemning the US-Israeli strikes on Iran as well as castigating Tehran for its attacks on Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries.

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As Iran strikes Gulf targets, Pakistan navigates alliance with Riyadh while avoiding confrontation with Tehran. But with the war intensifying, that posture will be hard to maintain, say analysts.

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Oman expresses neutral stance on regional armed conflict, condemns attacks on its territory

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Oman has taken a more cautious approach than its Gulf neighbours regarding Tehran's attacks in an effort to remain a neutral party in the conflict and play a role in future peace-building efforts.

Nations will do what is in their own strategic interests? Why are you surprised by this?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It's real and confirmed

What is not confirmed is the fate of the jet

At the time that I made the initial post, I had not seen anything pop up on my news feeds. That has since changed.

What is still questionable is the means by which Iran allegedly hit the jet.

 

[kobra]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Look buddy! We are giving you your own news outlets. CNN routers Fox I'm bringing all those official tweets from those major outlets. They not Indian channels

Try and be civil, if it's even possible for you.

I am questioning the video of the alleged hit on the jet. There has been so much fake crap posted by many of you that I pretty much refuse to look at most of it.

 

[Cash gk]

At the time that I made the initial post, I had not seen anything pop up on my news feeds. That has since changed.

What is still questionable is the means by which Iran allegedly hit the jet.

 

[kobra]

At the time that I made the initial post, I had not seen anything pop up on my news feeds. That has since changed.

What is still questionable is the means by which Iran allegedly hit the jet.

Iran had many tricks up in their sleeves.. west just underestimated their enemy and now openly accepting it.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Cash gk]

 

[RescueRanger]

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[PakSword]

Nations will do what is in their own strategic interests? Why are you surprised by this?

When did I say I was surprised?