Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Iran: Revolutionary Guard: The Israeli entity has crossed all red lines in the genocide, especially in Palestine and Lebanon.

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[kobra]

I don't know what you are talking about - Israel has effectively taken control of a large part of Lebanese land sound of the the Litani river.
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These are evacuated zone, mostly shia village and town from where Hezbullah belongs. Israil is bombing the evacuated zone relentlessly but they have not taken control of towns.

Intense one on one clashes going on with complete sensorship.

 

[Unknown987]

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Mossad at work to the give a clear message that Iran must be destroyed otherwise your own country energy structures are at risk.

 

[kobra]

Saudi's are being so fkn stupid...
They need to realize that the only option they have is to have relationship with Iran. This normalization will make sure that Saudi's stay relevant..
Saudi's have 2 options
1. Attack Iran and fail which they will, it will take away whatever's prestige they have left in Muslim world. Therefore rebellion/revolution may occur against House of Saud.

2. They normalize relationships with Iran, west will try to do something in sort of revolution or something but Saudi's can have Iran on their side along with Pakistan and that can take down any Israel backed regime change operation against Saudi's.

Either ally with Israel and be alienated from Muslim world forever.
Or
Since Trump is backtracking now, Saudi's can take a lead and call to halt entire aggression against Iran and earn the respect back .
If MBS is compromised then someone else needs to step...
MBS is a human not a prophet nor God... He is just a son of once upon the time sheep hearders and politics, diplomacy is not in their genes....the stupid **** is giving lil wayne Lambo like the money is His... Chor ka bacha, I noticed MBS have his lips glossed up like he ready to suck some dck.

MBS was an Epstien clinet, he was picked up for a special reason. Jhonny of Trump and Zios. As long as he is alive and in power, forget about Saudi and Iranian relations.

Iran also support hostile actor towards saudis i.e AnsharAllah houthis. So mis trust is mutual. And lets be honest its a 1400 years old problem lol.

 

[Bengal71]

But Iran doesn't use Chabahar or even Qeshm to disrupt shipping. It can do this by firing drones or missiles from anywhere in Iran. Capturing Qeshm exposes US troops to Iranian fire and is a propaganda win, but I don't see how it helps them open the Strait.

The only possible objective I can foresee is that they plan to use the islands as leverage to force Iran to reopen the Strait (i.e., we will return the islands if/when you open the Strait).

I don't think Kharg is a plausible target. It's too small and deep into the Persian Gulf. And IRI would not hesitate to destroy the oil depots there to harm the US troops. IRI is resilient and can survive with lower oil exports for a while. the US has suppressed air defences successfully in south Iran, though, so they could land in Chabahar.

I just don't see how any form of ground invasion goes well for the US. maybe I'm wrong and Trump has a genius master plan that involves a limited ground invasion for a clear objective and with a clean exit plan, but I doubt it.

Maybe they will take Qeshm Island and stop Iranian oil export through the control of the gulf?

 

[ParthianLord]

Shipping companies now started paying the 2 million per ship and Iran is allowing now more of them to pass (after paying the fee)

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[Zoyou]

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[Falcon29]

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Read the statement in Arabic and it says without hesitation as opposed to without restraint. And no mention of heavy missile or drone attacks in the statement.

I think it's a way to help keep these fronts alive. In Lebanon it helps Hezbollah get breathing room.

In Gaza it would make IDF on alert and worried about any movements on the ground.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

Jhonny of Trump

 

[Bengal71]

Honestly, Iran's winning card in this case is the Persian Gulf missile. It may not be able to sink an aircraft carrier, but it can undoubtedly sink any tanker any day.

I have good answers for intercepting Iranian drones, anti-ship missiles, cruise missiles or speedboats. But the Persian Gulf missile is really the game changer here.

How about hitting the landing vessels of marines before they land and while they are still in Arabian sea or Indian ocean?

 

[Dark Knight]

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Get Dana White to get them in the octogon to decide, who decide's when this is over.

'Let's get it on'

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Israeli Media: "Netanyahu starts blaming Mossad Chief David Barnea for the War´s failure till now, none of its goal reached,and Iran is in a stronger position then before the War, Trump might leave the war any moment"

"Circles close to Netanyahu are calling for the replacement of Mossad chief David Barnea"

according israeli media sources :"
Mossad told Netanyahu the Iranian gov would fall within 1 week into the war and a "pro us military coup" would replace the mullah government"

Who is it that they wanted installed?
No names have trickled out except for some news pointing towards taking out potential replacement at the top.

I wonder if the revolution was a blowback for occurred during the first regime change... what makes anyone think that this wouldn't deliver an even greater blowback. Mossadegh was no religious leader or had reverence outside of his political office. Taking the first shot at the Supreme leader can cascade into a far greater blowback that may be generational in nature. While there are many Iranians with superficial attachment to their heritage, faith and state... a vast majority remain part and parcel of that land ... it's true heirs.

 

[RescueRanger]

but they have not taken control of towns.

You may wish to double check this. Look I am no fan of Israel but if we are going to have discussions it has be based on factual information not hearsay or dismissing research with one liners without any factual source.

 

[Musings]

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Netanyahu wants it to continue. Hes in trouble at home and will end up in jail at home. The USA are looking at a get out with Iran - bitten off too much to chew. Netanyahu really thinks he is relevant without the support of the US? Iran will make mince meat out of Israel if the US leaves the war....

 

[Ali_Baba]

US is winning militarily, Iran is winning both politically & strategically.

Of course being bombed is not fun or a positive, but if the Iranian regime survives, this will be a huge loss for Israel. And for the US, Iran has it in a strategic chokehold via control of the Hormuz strait and pressure on Gulf infrastructure like oil & gas.

This is what happened in Vietnam where the Americans wont virtually every battle, but strategically lost the war and had to retreat.