Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oscar]

We are at a critical juncture in this war, the US is staring down at a strategic defeat with the way things stand. Thats why I say worrying, trumpy will escalate further the empire will fight back.

I hope Iran has the arms stockpiles and endurance to continue, for if they do not only will they defeat the US in this conflict but end up controlling the Strait of hormuz and the entire PG.

Lets really be clear on where the shots come from. There is a Trump who is well aware his life, his own Trump org shares and future are at risk if this war doesn’t end along with a large part of republican party that knows it will be butchered in the mid terms if this drags on AND the democrats can get even a semblance of an act together.

On the other hand there is Israel holding the Epstien files as an axe over Trumps head, Lindsey Graham getting it from behind as he likes it , and then the Project 2025/Christian Cucks(zionists) who are both hoping to create Nazi America with this war’s distractions or waiting for Jesus at any moment to come in with rays from the sky.

Then there is the US military executing old plans, with a mix of mostly realists doing their job, nutjob believers whom hegseth promotef or handpicked, existing zionists within the system and then the rest just looking to get their discharge prior to what they are seeing as sureshot ptsd for no good reason whatsoever.

 

[brazensword]

US surprisingly also was not tactically dominant in middle east as I thought


How do you let your radars 20 of your aircraft and IADS and ur prestige aircraft get hit by a nation you say is primitive and uses sticks and stones to fight as they now have no army no navy and no air force

Iran is giving us fight of its life

Yes they are striking but Iran us giving much more challenge for air superiority unlike. 12 day war and is resilient

Iran is prepared for atleast a year or two long war I think

 

[Optical216]

Yazeed! Curse upon this demon

 

[Watandar]

What I am so surprised though is the Saudi hard on for war

This MBS guy is bad news for the region. If Israel did not exist this guy would be the next most dangerous man in the region I'm telling you

I do not get good vibes from this man

MBS revealed himself very early on, getting Saudi involved in Yemen, kidnapping and killing that journalist, inviting his relatives and rivals to a banquet in a hotel then detaining and extorting them. People just forget.

 

[Shags101]

This is likely how Iran would collect “reparations” in any scenario. A Hormuz Tax of $2M per ship is about $1 increase per barrel of oil.

There is 0.0% chance US gives any money directly to Iran for reparations due to the optics of that. The only money they will provide is to the families of Minab school like they did when they shot the Iranian airliner down in the 90s

So let’s say negotiations(demands are back on) Iran can only go with any agreement if they have a security guarantee and the only security guarantee is if china decides to put a large sizable force in Iran because with some kind of real security guarantee this bad top gun trilogy will repeat itself in a few years before trump leaves office

 

[lightning f57]

People were so convinced on this forum that the Su-35 had already been delivered or was definitely to be delivered before 2026.

All those silly bluffs didn't work I guess, and Iranian skies are under Israeli and American supermacy today.

I dont think anyone was convinced, rumours were discussed. The fact the US is using long range bombers with standoff munitions tells you there isn't complete control of the skys.

 

[maverick]

What I am so surprised though is the Saudi hard on for war

This MBS guy is bad news for the region. If Israel did not exist this guy would be the next most dangerous man in the region I'm telling you

I do not get good vibes from this man

unfortunately, ever since i saw his pic with Epstein, i consider him trouble too. Since Epstein called one of a pakistani politician a real trouble bigger than Ali Khemeni, i do believe he is involved in his removal.
This guy might be a bigger trouble than the bad ones GCC region has seen, slowly his cloak is coming off.

 

[safriz]

@Oscar @Persian Gulf @Musings @RescueRanger

I am very very worried about these negotiations held in Islamabad, i smell the RAT!

what if Entity Does Blue Sparrow on Iranian Deligation in Islamabad. what will Happen? it looks like a trap to push Pakistan into this war! directly with Entity!

This will go out hand massively! Entity F15s can come from Afghanistan Airspace and launch.

I am very very worried,

There wont be a top level official from Iran, i guess. USIRAEL have done this before to Iran .
Plus Pakistan has far better Intelligence network , Surveillance and Air defence compared to Iran .

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Congress doesn’t have jurisdiction on the Persian Gulf.

There are creative ways to make it work for Iran as a form of reparations and U.S. can also collect a portion under auspices of providing protection. Lots of possibilities. But again both sides need to want to get a deal done.

This is where I was:

1. being facetious
2. sarcastic
3. or just an ass in general

 

[brazensword]

So let’s say negotiations(demands are back on) Iran can only go with any agreement if they have a security guarantee and the only security guarantee is if china decides to put a large sizable force in Iran because with some kind of real security guarantee this bad top gun trilogy will repeat itself in a few years before trump leaves office

Us-raeli guarantees are nothing. Orcs will orc.

 

[Immortals]

 

[hussain0216]

here the vid


either this is somekind of crazy trick or he is fully nuts now not just partly

He probably means oil and gas price rise gives the U.S higher profit

 

[Optical216]

unfortunately, ever since i saw his pic with Epstein, i consider him trouble too. Since Epstein called one of a pakistani politician a real trouble bigger than Ali Khemeni, i do believe he is involved in his removal.
This guy might be a bigger trouble than the bad ones GCC region has seen, slowly his cloak is coming off.

Youre talking about Imran Khan the politician


Next this guy and sheikh MBZ are two bad bad demons in the gulf

How the mighty sauds have fallen from king Faisal the great to this demonic yazeed creature

 

[Aggregate]

Congress doesn’t have jurisdiction on the Persian Gulf.

There are creative ways to make it work for Iran as a form of reparations and U.S. can also collect a portion under auspices of providing protection. Lots of possibilities. But again both sides need to want to get a deal done.

Coincidentally, that would work perfectly for Trump too, towards ending this war

In the end Trump is always all about the money. Many people who look at this from a financial perspective, have understood this war as Nethanyahu having involved Trump to take control of Iranian oil through a regime that works for the US. Remember how the whole Venezuela thing turned out to be about oil as well. There are so many other cases in his tenure. He works on every issue on financial basis. Same goes for Pakistan's approach with him.

In a scenario where Iran offers a share of Hormuz, he would probably agree to override Nethanyahu and end this war. Which coincides with his statement about Iran offering him a gift. That's where his bizarre statement about Oil related Iranian gift possibly ties up with this all.

 

[hasssanali8998]