Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It’s not a supply issue. I can assure you. At the absolute minimum Iran has at least another 1000-1500 long range missiles.

The issue is political will in Tehran as factions fight for strategy and end game.

Also there is 200+ aircraft/drones flying thru the skies of Iran so they have to pick their launch windows carefully.

As long as they got Hormuz. Everything can rebuild. As long as there is political and foreign policy freedom Iran can return. In fact, rebuild faster... there'd be those leaving mideast... Emirates for example who have years of project management experience... most importantly construction... that can be employed in host countries or wasted in their home environments but talent readily available to put to good use.

Everything can rebuild, mental slavery is often permanent.

 

[ShapurII]

Thats what I said. Read my post again that is why we call them misl e ahele Qitab.

I'm referring to the first line of your comment where you say Iranians were fire worshippers.

Zoroastrians did not worship fire. They kept fire as a symbol of God, as a symbol of light against darkness. That is not a fire-worshipping practice. It is like claiming that Muslims worship the black stone because they walk around it in Mecca.

Even Islam claims that God is a form of light in some sense. It is right from the Quran:
الله نور السماوات و الارض

 

[Falcon29]

I don't think 1500 missiles is good enough for deterrence against Israel. You would need to fire like 2000 missiles plus the drones to depleted all of Israel's interceptors. When their interceptors is out, then you need fire another 1000 missiles at them; assuming 800 will impact that will cause a considerable damage to their military and civilian infrastructures.

Yes that's right. Iran is at a disadvantage against Israel in this war. It was in a better position during the 12 day war.

 

[Raider 21]

Again, as I said, it's not direction aggression. If the US launches IRBMs against Iranian territories from Japan and South Korea, then it will be comparable to what countries like Kuwait, Bahrain and the Emirates have done. That's a clear act of aggression and involvement in the war.

Besides that, Japan and South Korea didn't push the US to launch this war. Some Arab states in the Persian Gulf did push for this war and continue to do so and finance it. Trump has publicly talked about this, their officials have talked about this, Western journalists have talked about this, Iranian officials have talked about this and it is beyond reasonable doubt at this point.

I don't know about the rest (Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar and the rest of the Arab Islamic world
), but US military presence in Bahrain is non existent since late January. No IRBMs have been launched from there.

Yes, Saudi leadership have been rumoured to press on for attacks on Iran.

 

[bengalcdn]

Yes that's right. Iran is at a disadvantage against Israel in this war. It was in a better position during the 12 day war.

The only advantage Israel has is it is actively supported by US. Israel alone would get crushed

 

[Abdul q]

They have no shame. A race that sees itself as no more than slaves of the white men.

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They should be targeted and get rid of… if Muslims won’t take stand against imams of holy mosques they will continue to destroy the religion. Kill these b*sturds before they lay eggs.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yes that's right. Iran is at a disadvantage against Israel in this war. It was in a better position during the 12 day war.

I wonder what Israel looks like today.

Yes, I'm being realistic. When you have certain folks in the other thread fapping over how wonderful the AD has been in stopping Iranian missile attacks, a little dose of reality such as:

Israeli Sources Confirm Iranian Missile Strikes Have 80 Percent Success Rates as Air Defences Falter

The Israeli paper Haaretz has confirmed that 8 out of 10 Iranian missiles launched against Israeli targets are reaching their targets, following mounting reports and

militarywatchmagazine.com

Which causes massive amounts of copium and "yeah but....." to set in.

 

[Falcon29]

The only advantage Israel has is it is actively supported by US. Israel alone would get crushed

Israel alone, if it had gone alone this time, in the context of just another attack on Iran, would face similar situation as 12 day war but not 'crushed'.

 

[clutch]

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Imagine selling your apt in dubai right now? At 50% discount (if you are lucky)........Having to leave with family to an uncertain future. No job prospects cuz yous 50+........

This is what these baasturddz have to done to our people in the GCC.

Yes, next imagine if your apartment was in Gaza.

 

[ShapurII]

Israel alone, if it had gone alone this time, in the context of just another attack on Iran, would face similar situation as 12 day war but not 'crushed'.

Israel was far from alone in the 12-day war. Not even close.

 

[Mero]

China must be made aware if Hormuz leverage is taken away by un sc votes, then oil and gas in the region are legitimate targets.

If oil and gas is mostly destroyed in the region, there won't be the need for a war on Iran to force open the straits. Missile striking oil and gas is similar to closing the straits. Except it is long lasting and you can have a cease fire moments after. As it is a months or years long closing of oil and gas in the region without the need for war.

 

[Falcon29]

I wonder what Israel looks like today.

Yes, I'm being realistic. When you have certain folks in the other thread fapping over how wonderful the AD has been in stopping Iranian missile attacks, a little dose of reality such as:

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Israeli Sources Confirm Iranian Missile Strikes Have 80 Percent Success Rates as Air Defences Falter

The Israeli paper Haaretz has confirmed that 8 out of 10 Iranian missiles launched against Israeli targets are reaching their targets, following mounting reports and

militarywatchmagazine.com

Which causes massive amounts of copium and "yeah but....." to set in.

Haaretz did not say that. These web blogs are corroborating X posts.

 

[black_cats]

Hundreds from Daraa province are reportedly marching toward the Israeli border in solidarity with Palestinian prisoners, the day after Israel's Knesset passed its death penalty law.

Syrian General Security forces have deployed checkpoints to block protesters from reaching the border. Israeli occupation forces are on high alert.

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Summary​

• President Donald Trump says the US will "leave" Iran in "two to three weeks" when they are certain the regime cannot build a nuclear weapon "for years"

A liar who'd burn down his own house owing to his ego. There are multiple financial fires brewing simultaneously and he's pushing for new ones. In short time his actual intention behind this all will start taking shape. His choice of JD and corporate takeover of America, while undercutting and hollowing out federal government... both via DOGE, funding cuts and going after social safety nets.
Too soon to put it conclusively but a coup is under way.

• Speaking from the Oval Office, Trump says Iran is "begging to make a deal" but whether it happens or not is "irrelevant" to America's timetable

Again double speak... talking from both sides of his mouth!

• Earlier, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said Tehran had the "necessary will" to end the war provided its enemies guaranteed it would not flare up again

BBC News

There are no guarantees... there are no guarantors! You build alliances and never show weakness when poked. North Korea pays a price economically but also holds a devastating cost benefit differential that no one gets the bright side of going to war against it.

 

[Bengal71]

Meanwhile EV owners (like me) who dumped gasoline cars because they can't stand oil price drama are doing...

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If you don't have solar panels and battery, you are going to pay higher in electricity bills to charge your cars. Electricity price is bound to increase with the oil price increase.