Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Japan would readily join an attack on China. So would South Korea if the push came to shove. They are among the most industrialized countries in the world.

Industrialized and militarily powerful are not the same thing. Germany is also quite industrialized with a very good reputation throughout the world, but it's not militarily powerful.

China also has its pet state, North Korea, led by the nuke-loving rocket man, to join the nuclear war.

Japan is a de-facto nuclear state, but they won't get to be an actual nuclear state when shit hits the fan. Just like Iran's theory of the threshold nuclear state failed miserably. You either have a large enough nuclear arsenal with megaton nukes or you don't.

South Korea can go there as well, but again, as long as you haven't developed a large arsenal of strategic nukes, it is suicidal to launch an all-out war against a nuclear state.

If China allowed the US to pull an Iran on them, the Chinese would have to be one of the least intelligent and competent people in the world because they have all the cards they need to prevent that by a pre-emptive strike.

Anyway, we're off-topic.

 

[Hakwa Nadro]

A more serious issue!

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what else to expect from people who believe chocolate flavor milk comes from brown cows

 

[clutch]

American actor Mel Gibson: "If the world wants peace, it must unite against Israel."

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Damn.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

@Kyussis
I can't understand why Iran is dependant on kharg island for 90% of it's oil exports? All the Irani oil is present on that island ? Iran has a huge coastal line why that one island ?

There are several reasons.

1. The Iranian coastline lacks locations suitable for deep-water ports, while this island has the conditions for constructing a deep-water port. Therefore, Iran lays oil pipelines underwater to transport oil to the island, where oil processing plants and docks are established.

2. Due to hostilities from the United States and Israel, if the US and Israel attack the oil processing plants, the impact on Iran's mainland can be minimized.

3. The dollar-oil system is a double-edged sword. The United States benefits the most from this system, while Iran's blockade actions have the greatest impact on the US. If the world realizes that oil can no longer be purchased with dollars, this oil-dollar system will gradually collapse, ultimately affecting the value of the dollar and dollar-denominated debt. If the US and Israel launch an aggressive war against Iran, Iran can blockade the strait, which is an important bargaining chip for Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah, any weight can be carried in a rocket big enough.

But Iran current missiles have a max weight payload of some around 1000kg.

And yes, I agree it's not 1940s, but without public enough information, researchers have to start from same beginning point.

North Korea didn't reach hydrogen bomb until 2017, when they first successfully nuclear test was in 2006.

No way of develop in days without any previous test what everybody else took years.

Iran's K-4 missile can carry a 1500-1800 kg warhead to 2000 km. You do the math.

The British achieved a yield of +700 kilotons with a boosted-fission device. And that was in 1950s or early 60s.

Iran doesn't even need megaton nukes to wipe Israel off the map. Israel lacks strategic depth. Multiple 100 kiloton devices would finish them off.

 

[Haz]

Nobody said Allah was a form of physical light. Read my comment again. Light is a symbol of God in the Quran. And fire is a symbol of God in Zoroastrianism.

And it is not just one verse in the Quran that claims that. The entirety of the Quran is full of phrases and metaphors where it says that Allah is like light that brings people out of ignorance and darkness. Nobody meant to say that Allah was a form of light, which is very clearly wrong.

Like I said, 'light' is implied as a metaphorical symbol only, ie. conceptually, and it is a reference to Him being a source of guidance and illumination in the spiritual sense only.

It's not used as a physical symbol like it is in Zoroastrianism, where the physical fire itself represents divinity of their god that they worship and pray to.

Two different and distinct concepts, because the latter is considered a form of idol worship, even if the fire itself isn't considered 'god', its still represents their divinity and they have to pray to it.

 

[black_cats]

UPDATE: Iraqi armed group warns US military against using Kuwaiti territory to invade Iran

LIVE updates: aje.news/taks27?update=…

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[black_cats]

️YEMEN MISSILES TARGET THE NAQAB — SIRENS BLARING IN ISRAEL

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[ShapurII]

Like I said, 'light' is implied as a metaphorical symbol only, ie. conceptually, and it is a reference to Him being a source of guidance and illumination in the spiritual sense only.

It's not used as a physical symbol like it is in Zoroastrianism, where the physical fire itself represents divinity of their god that they worship and pray to.

Two different and distinct concepts, because the latter is considered a form of idol worship, even if the fire itself isn't considered 'god', its still represents their divinity and they have to pray to it.

And Muslims walk around a black stone called الحجر الاسود in Mecca to worship God. That could also be interpreted wrongly because first of all, God is omnipresent and He is not in Mecca and secondly, it is definitely not represented by a black stone. I'm not following your logic.

Just because Zoroastrians keep fire burning for years as a symbol of God, it doesn't mean you're praying to it or worshipping it. Anyway, we're off topic.

If this topic really interests you that much, DM me or mention me in the Iranian Chill Thread.

 

[black_cats]

Greece is preparing for possible Iranian attacks, with its merchant navy holding drills after a drone strike.

While Gulf tankers remain potential targets, the only strike on European soil so far hit a British airbase in Cyprus.

Al Jazeera's John Psaropoulos reports.

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[东风夜放花千树]

He is calling me a communist and truth denier for deleting his posts about Jewish faith and peace in Iran War thread. This despite me telling him no less than 3 times religious posts are not allowed.

The guy then went and made an entire blog post about me on his blog saying I am a communist iran supporter and a threat to world peace.

I am a true communist.

Are there still people who regard communism as the enemy?

Then what does it mean that the British Prime Minister, French President, Canadian Prime Minister, South Korean President, and Trump, who hopes to visit China, all go together to the largest communist country to discuss cooperation?

It is no longer the Cold War era; the current world is one of global cooperation. The person who accuses you should die along with the Cold War.

 

[black_cats]

URGENT Iran responds in kind: It stated that if the death penalty law is applied to Palestinian prisoners inside Israeli prisons, it will be applied to American and Israeli prisoners in Iran, Iraq, and Lebanon—those who were captured in the ongoing war and are in large numbers.

And the execution will be carried out live on local and international channels in the event of the execution of any Palestinian prisoner.
Tit-for-tat treatment

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[black_cats]

Massive rallies are taking place in Idlib, Syria, in support of Palestinian detainees, condemning the death penalty and the closure of Al-Aqsa Mosque.

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[Mobius]

@Mobius​

Can Iran develop a booster to increase the speed of the drones to fly past the drone interceptors at very high speed once they are in a danger zone. Have a kit to upgrade tens of thousands of drones. Russia could use this technology too.

Iran can play the strategy of waiting out the war for a cold war with Iran closing the straits. Iran does not need many launches per day. Keep the straits closed and watch trump cry.

Do the things trump says don't do.

That's certainly possible. There's talk of Russia providing their improved version of the Shahed drone to Iran. Whether thats true or not is a different story.

 

[black_cats]

Israeli soldiers aimed their weapons at the UNIFIL Chief of Staff and his assistant. A few hours later, Israeli soldiers opened fire on the French UNIFIL soldiers.

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