Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Ironically, it would have been better for iran if Bibi did attack then and Biden allowed it.

-Hezbollah was stronger and Nasrallah was alive
-Syria was under Assad and would have made it more challenging to use Syrian airspace
-Houthis were stronger
-Iraqi PMUs were stronger
Etc.

I actually thought Iran should have gone to war in 2023 especially after its embassy was blown up in Syria. By avoiding war over and over, Iran ultimately fought the war when the enemy wanted, not when it wanted.

Or even better, we could've chosen the easier option and gone nuclear. Biden was an opportunity that we missed by the stupidity of our leadership.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Meengla]

We are entering a very volatile period now in the ME. Irans relationship with GCC in tatters after most of their treachery, they obviously wont see it that way. You also have an Israel trying to become a major power or super power of the region. Greater Israel plan is live and kicking.

'GCC' vs Iran is not as clear cut as many think: UAE is surely an Israeli stooge, Bahrain is one popular uprising from becoming an Iranian satellite. Kuwait: I don't know. Oman and Qatar are neutral, especially Oman is. Qatar is coerced by the Americans. Saudis are very upset with Iranian bombing into Saudi Arabia but are restrained, at least partly by Pakistan. Iraq is mostly pro Iran but except for militias there, hedging its bets.
In case this war ends favorably for Iran, then all, except UAE, will make peace with Iran.

 

[Immortals]

Or even better, we could've chosen the easier option and gone nuclear. Biden was an opportunity that we missed by the stupidity of our leadership.

Another factor was the riots of January 2026 hadn’t occurred or the June war of 2025.

Khamenai’s dovish behavior cost the nation very dearly.

 

[hyperman]

Uncivilized Mozlamic Eye-ranian Taliban Mullahs, look what they are doing to Wahmen.

 

[Olympus81]

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The American-Israeli forces target the B-1 Bridge in Karaj, Iran. It's the highest bridge in the Middle East.

This should be reciprocated in Israel, I think.

Well, apart from having to swim in a swamp of sh!t the Zios will have have no where to run.

I hope the Iranians take out Zio’s road network or better yet the airport once and for all. Nothing should be flying in or out.

 

[VCheng]

I think what he is doing this time around is irreversible in terms of the damage to US prestige, power and credibility around the world.

It will be a much changed world, for better and for worse, in the post-Trump era, that is for sure.

On topic for this thread, the bullish Cheetoman has foolishly barged into a fine china shop with no idea of how to back out of it. That is a no-no on the basis of geopolitics, since it does not leave either side with much room to maneuver, as Pakistan is finding out. Its attempts to broker a ceasefire are not going to be easy, if they work at all.

 

[VCheng]

Bird Strike apparently leading to hydraulic malfunction.
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Damn, suicide birds fighting for the Iranians! They are good indeed.

 

[Meengla]

Ironically, it would have been better for iran if Bibi did attack then and Biden allowed it.
-Hezbollah was stronger and Nasrallah was alive
-Syria was under Assad and would have made it more challenging to use Syrian airspace
-Houthis were stronger
-Iraqi PMUs were stronger
Etc.
I actually thought Iran should have gone to war in 2023 especially after its embassy was blown up in Syria. By avoiding war over and over, Iran ultimately fought the war when the enemy wanted, not when it wanted.

Great post!
Indeed, Israelis attack on the Iranian embassy was enough cause to have launched a war on Israel while Iran had so many advantages.
Well, what they say about 'hindsight'...

 

[kobra]

If Capability is still intact, its time for Irgc to hit infrastructure with accuracy so that they can also feel the pain. Hypersonics should start leveling buildinga like weisman was levelled.

They should also target the universities in israil now. Hitting bridges/bypasses with Missile is very difficult obviously.

 

[ziaulislam]

No big deal. Money isnt the issue, usa will print it, and give it to Israel..usa treasuries will then be bought by whole world especially by china, japan and arab countries

You think the chinese elites want to give up on usa bonds ofcourse not

And then we have arabs ..they have trillions

 

[ShapurII]

Another factor was the riots of January 2026 hadn’t occurred or the June war of 2025.

Khamenai’s dovish behavior cost the nation very dearly.

For a Muslim leader that loved to preach "اشداء علی الکفار، رحماء بینهم", he really did the opposite of that.

The problem wasn't the late Khamenei alone though. The entire system felt comfortable with the status quo at that time. People were suffering, Israel was getting more and more aggressive, but the leaders of Iran felt safe from it because they were filling their pockets by evading sanctions and thought an all-out war would be improbable.

The damage that Khamenei's "strategic patience" has done to Iran will not be repaired in a long time. First and foremost, our nuclear program has been set back by years in a time that we have never needed nuclear deterrence more for survival. Secondly, it will take years for our economy to recover from this while our bad economy has been the cause of several uprisings in the last 10 years.

Once this war is over, we need to rethink a lot of things and change course in many ways. If it doesn't happen and we choose to ignore the problem like we did in the 12-day war, even darker days will be ahead.

 

[kobra]

Freedom is coming

Process of converting Iran into Gaza has begun but slowly! Obviously scale is much different.

Iran needs to up the ante significantly if it wants to survive after war, whenever or if it finishes.

 

[kobra]

No big deal. Money isnt the issue, usa will print it, and give it to Israel..usa treasuries will then be bought by whole world especially by china, japan and arab countries

You think the chinese elites want to give up on usa bonds ofcourse not

And then we have arabs ..they have trillions

Money isnot a big deal but equipment and human life is. Israil has 1700+ merkava tanks. If the claim of 134 is true, its almost 10% of total supply.

Which is definitely huge.

 

[Blain2]

It will be a much changed world, for better and for worse, in the post-Trump era, that is for sure.

On topic for this thread, the bullish Cheetoman has foolishly barged into a fine china shop with no idea of how to back out of it. That is a no-no on the basis of geopolitics, since it does not leave either side with much room to maneuver, as Pakistan is finding out. Its attempts to broker a ceasefire are not going to be easy, if they work at all.

He is a buffoon. Simply put.

He is essentially trying the Linebacker diplomacy. Just like the US tried to carpet bomb North Vietnamese into submission (which failed), he is threatening to do the same to arrive at some off-ramp which allows him to claim victory.

Trump's limited understanding of the military power essentially gives his Secretary of War and his generals a lot of leeway in what they want to do. This on top of the fact that his entire military staff is working tightly with Israelis means that Israeli considerations reign supreme. Then we have Kushner and Witkoff who are constantly reinforcing the Israeli PoV to Trump and we are left with a situation which is clearly of NO benefit to the US.

I had a conversation with some relatives and for some reason they keep on saying "Pakistan is doing America's bidding in its peacemaking efforts". I think that is a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation Pakistan finds itself in.

Pakistan is in a battle for its life not wanting to get dragged into a KSA-Iran war in which it will have to take sides and no matter which side comes out on top, Pakistan will be the loser (given our own Shia-Sunni equation). Pakistan's effort, America's interests be damned, is to not let KSA-Iran get into a shooting war by any means possible. And you have rightly said, it won't be easy, perhaps requiring a miracle to get to this peace.